This month marked a huge turn for Bike Party. While our decision may not have been popular for some, something had to be done. For months now, we’ve been trying to figure out the best way to reconcile the overwhelming concerns of riders and community members alike.
Dangerous and illegal activity are in direct conflict with Bike Party’s mission – to build community through bicycling. Legitimate concern about the vitality and safety of the ride were on everyone’s mind, and the question of how to rid ourselves of these problems while keeping the ride vibrant and fun drove the final decision. No one knew how it would work but we all anticipated the results.
And what happened? There was confusion, there was initial resistance to the idea, yet still, 2,800 people took to the streets for a wonderful evening. The behavior that’s plagued us was almost non-existent. BIRDs draped every major turn, both familiar faces and new volunteers who so graciously stepped up to support the ride. And not only was the route itself great, the communities and police departments along the way were very supportive. A lot of riders commented that this was there favorite ride in months, and it definitely had the spirit of the older days: more costumes, more community, more fun. So although the added challenge to getting the route was frustrating for some, and yes, a few kind-hearted folks surely missed out, this decision was, for the longevity of Bike Party, a good and necessary one.
Bike Party is an inclusive event but it also needs to remain sustainable to continue to thrive. Thank you everyone for trying out a different experience this month and thanks to all the volunteers and BIRDs who continue to rock this thing into action.
Next month marks our three year anniversary and there’s going to be a lot in store, so help out to make it a great night. There’s more ways to get involved now than ever. Hope to see you before the next ride!



















Community Activits
September 17, 2010
Best managed ride I’ve ever been on. Thanks to all the Birds.
Dennis Jones
September 17, 2010
I missed the Pirate Ride. I didn’t know a bird. I’ve selfishly enjoyed the SJ Bike Party for the past year, without giving anything back. I get it now. I want to volunteer to help in any way I can. I want to be a part of Bike Party. This is one of the best celebrations of life I’ve ever experienced.
Katie
September 18, 2010
Cool! I’m glad you want to step up. There’s a test ride this Saturday, hope I see you there! Keep checking the website for the time and location.
jarhead1
September 21, 2010
word! i found a map late friday. i get the point! sweet, ride on saturday.
Mike G
September 17, 2010
There was still a huge turnout, way more than I expected, one of the best behaved BikeParties I’ve been on too!
My small group split off after the first break.
Sorry to take the music trailer with me, it was a lot of fun but after a long day I was very tired.
I really hope the rest of the night went well and the next ones are equally fun and under control like what I saw tonight.
Jewish Community Member
September 17, 2010
I was not involved in the Bike Party. Rather, I was an outsider adversely affected by the Bike Party and I want to make sure my voice is heard.
There was a lack of communication on some party’s part regarding the use of the Foothill College Parking Lot #1 as a rest stop. Many of the people parked in this lot at the time the Party came through were just leaving Erev Yom Kippur services. For those of you who are unaware, Erev Yom Kippur begins one of the holiest days of the Jewish Year. It is a day where people traditionally fast, exercising self-control and reflecting.
Having a party atmosphere and food vendors right in our faces is negligent, at the very least.
In the future, please insure that the Bike Party doesn’t overlap something like this – it was rather frustrating. The Bike Party seems like a really great time and fixing this and knowing that the Party organizers care about the community would really help improve relations between the Party and the outside community.
[mod/tr: please accept our apologies. note: any inappropriate comments from readers toward this message are not acceptable and will be removed]
yoshi
September 18, 2010
isn’t that what’s great about america? you have the right to practice your religion and we have the right to ride our bikes. it is just as easy for you to look at our website and find our event as it is for us to look up yours.
Jason Tucker
September 18, 2010
Well said!!!!!
scott
September 18, 2010
a public apology to Yoshi that his comment (above) was pulled temporarily. the comment was not mean, insensitive nor insulting. while yoshi said nothing that was untrue, i didn’t want this to turn into a topic that would take us off course. this was taken off as a temporary move only.
the second concern was how are they (the group that rented the theater and parking lot) to know what/where to look up or expect that they have to worry about their parking lot (which came with the rental of the theater facility) being used in the first place. they paid for it, that didn’t include the expectation of anyone else using it. so in their view, they can press Foothill -DeAnza College hard. it was at times hard for these drivers to leave the parking lot as they were concerned about hitting cyclists. plus it put pressure on the police, which some were clearly not happy about at all.
so to recap, was this the wrong decision to pull it at all? perhaps. but i could tell many, many guests were clearly pissed off that we were there and didn’t want this to be the debate that takes us off the 99.9% that happened at the “Ride Like a Pirate” Sept ride.
Captain (Billy the) Kid
September 18, 2010
Well said, Scott.
Rapid Robert
September 18, 2010
Ian and I arrived at that regroup together and saw a pretty big line of cars wanting to leave. Ian blocked the road, I joined him and we got the bikes to stay to the right and let the cars move out.
Before long, there was a whole line of BIRDs making the barrier longer and keeping the flow going in both directions. A Foothill security officer joined in (happy we were doin’ it), then a another regular police officer, kinda’ pissed we were there at all but who eventually helped move us out orderly and without having to ride all around the college (thanks!!!).
As I stood there, many walking past from the services commented on how fun it all looked, and I know I saw some appreciative faces in those cars as they drove past. We’re doin’ our best to minimize our impact on the community, and really appreciate the patience we’re shown by the vast, vast majority of drivers who encounter us.
CyciumX
September 19, 2010
I was stopped by a nice couple who complimented me on my bike. a Trek Y-foil. The gentleman also had one and we had a brief moment on conversation on what we built ours up with. They were also interested in hearing about what was going on and seemed to really like the atmosphere. I did warn them (I arrived before the food vendors) that they should probably make a hasty getaway as the parking lot was going to start filling up fast. Pleasant little experience for both of us.
scott
September 18, 2010
robert, ian – what you did was magical and hopefully saved us in the eyes of the foothill-deanza college district. we were asked not to come to deanza, so to inadvertently crash an event’s parking facilities at foothill was a faux pas that you both helped mitigate in short order. thanks to all the BIRDs and non-BIRDs too!
the fact that i was only told to (somewhat politely) told to “F off” by one rider (a snarly woman, not a guy) that broke our line was comical in the fact that she thought she was so much in the “right” and we were being bullies. (even after I told her the police told us to do this) it just shows the DB-ish behavior can be universal.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Holy Cow, ouch. I physically winced when I read that.
Dear Jewish Community Member.
I’d like to be able to say that Hubris like that is not at the core of San Jose Bike Party.
Or that Hubris like that is definitely not the message that San Jose Bike Party wants to present to the community.
Ouch.
I am so sorry. Really. I’m sorry we impacted your evening that way and I’m sorry for some of the comments you have to read on this forum.
Oy vey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oy_vey
Billy the Kid
September 18, 2010
I’m very sorry you had that experience.
moo
September 18, 2010
Thank you for your comment and understanding. SJBP volunteers try to avoid having regroups in parking lots where other traffic is expected. As you point out, this was a problem of communication and an unfortunate coincidence. I’ve heard that the Foothill event calendar was consulted, and I believe some agencies were given advance notice of the route, but somehow this was missed. Apologies for disrupting your evening.
Jynelle
September 18, 2010
Sorry, I am sure we did not mean to offend and obviously need more Jewish volunteers (: to let us know next time.
Coby
September 19, 2010
I was on bike party observing Yom Kippur! What better way to atone than through sweating it out!
Meghan Collins
September 20, 2010
Dear Jewish Community Member,
I appreciate your courteously crafted complaint about our (Bike Party’s) imposition on your Erev Yom Kippur services. I imagine the sounds of celebration and the delicious aromas wafting in the breeze caused a considerable amount of discomfort for those trying earnestly to observe a very important Sabbath.
It’s unfortunate that your first encounter with our happy event was somewhat fraught. Since it’s been several days since your original post, I hope you understand by now that our organizers make an incredible effort to mitigate every imaginable impact on the larger community by scouting the route, controlling litter, and fostering a culture of responsibility, self-awareness, and cooperation.
Mike
September 18, 2010
Being verbally accosted and threatened by members of the Bike Party at midnight in the MTV In and Out parking lot wasn’t the best first impression.
Full disclosure: I was trying to exit the parking lot and was blocked from doing so by a discarded bike left in the parking lot (there was no room to maneuver around due to the curb). I very politely asked, “Excuse me, could you move your bike?”
The individual picked up his bike, giving me me a bit more room and said, “That’s as far as I can @#$%ing go. Deal with it.”
From here it was verbal threats from the rest of his group.
I like the idea of the SJBikeParty. I also recognize the effort being spent to ensure that all participants are responsible and adhering to the ride’s rules. As someone who had a bad first impression of the SJBikeParty and was open minded enough to learn more about the BP, I would ask that the organizers to continue to fight the good fight, weed out the bad apples, and continue to be vigilant policing your own attendees.
Thanks.
yoshi
September 18, 2010
only police can police. as we are a bunch of individual riders, if you have a problem with one, it is well within your right to call the police and have them deal with an unsafe situation.
Billy the Kid
September 18, 2010
But we as organizers do have a responsibility to minimize problems.
Mike, I’m glad you’ve learned enough about Bike Party to see that the douchebags are individuals who do not represent the Party as a whole. And we will continue to work on weeding them out.
[mod/tr: organizers? ie, loose knit volunteers is more like it]
Meghan Collins
September 20, 2010
Yoshi,
Saying “only police can police” seems unhelpfully simplistic. While I admit there is something admirable about your independent attitude, it would be obtuse to deny that individual human beings have an intrinsic responsibility to one another – to ensure their conduct does not cause harm to anyone else.
If you have had people confront you about your conduct, please acknowledge the possibility that they are merely asserting for themselves the same rights that you would reserve for yourself.
And remember, if they witness your commit a felony, they also have the right to detain you, THEN call the police.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Hi Mike,
Sorry you had that problem.
I know what you mean about bikes blocking the path.
At the first regroup a few of the more intelligent riders I rode with last night decided that right in front of the door was the most logical spot to lay down their bikes. The manager came out and asked them to move them. One did, several remained. Since I didn’t think that was the way I wanted Bike Party to be I just walked over, started picking up bikes, and getting them out of the way. Before I knew it the entry as clear and nobody messed with me (and I’m no intimidating figure).
I only share that here to encourage everybody to step up, you can do it. The jerks realize they aren’t welcome, and when you call them on it, they don’t ‘stand up’ for their foolish behavior.
scott
September 18, 2010
at the start many people were texting messages about the start location. it is exactly this type of DB behavior that has no place in bike party. i’m glad that you’re able to attempt to look past this. not sure if i would if i were in your shoes. you are most welcome to join a test ride and see what we’re trying to accomplish here and are obviously welcome to join our next ride… and ride with a BIRD perhaps.
Upset Rider
September 20, 2010
See quite alot of DB’s still found out about the location yet people like me who work quite alot and just recently moved into san jose didn’t get to go as I didnt get off tell 7 that night and couldn’t find anyone. While I still had a good night going to the movies it was a bummer after waiting all month. Some of us just don’t have the time to volunteer If there was a day for a test ride and I was open I would surly go. But this is not always the case.
Iv seen postings about problems so it still somewhat happened. As you can now see you can’t make everyone happy.
Rapid Robert
September 18, 2010
Thanks for your patience with those assholes, and understanding that they don’t represent the party. It’s their kind we try our best to weed out.
Richard Masoner
September 18, 2010
Thanks for another great ride, Bike Party! I’ve posted my initial batch of photos to Flickr — watch for more over the weekend.
scott
September 18, 2010
as always, great job Richard!
Billy Cool
September 19, 2010
Don’t mean to shout but…EXCELLENT PICS!!!
Richard Masoner
September 20, 2010
Thanks, but it’s the subject matter that makes them excellent. You all are marvelous.
tanner
September 18, 2010
Bike party – 1
Bobby Douches – 0
scmaggi
September 18, 2010
Bike Party Rides Again ~
Absolutely GREAT ride. One of the best in my one-year history. And a big THANK YOU to the really GREAT job by all the BIRDS. Excellent route. Not too many turns. Douche bag behavior appeared to be down considerably, although not gone altogether. Only downer: right at the end, while waiting at the stoplight to turn left onto Perimeter Road into Vallco an asshole in a car coming the opposite direction threw a full beer bottle out his window. It hit the street about 10 feet in front of us with beer and broken glass hitting our legs. If anyone got a flat right at the very end, it was probably from glass from this. So although there may be a few douche bags on bikes, they come in cars too. Hazards of the biking community. Overall I think the posts for this ride will be much better then all the drama and complaints on last months ride. Bike Parteeeeeeeeeeeeee. So what’s October’s theme?
MVRobb
September 18, 2010
ZOMBIES!!!
Wuss912
September 18, 2010
Zombies is the East bay bike party Theme… not ours
at leasr not officially
Richard
September 18, 2010
Super fun party this time, maybe the funnest yet for me. People were very well behaved that I saw. I do wish more people would wear helmets since I saw a few people downed by falls, but I guess its their choice to take the risk. Also mad props to the guy who skateboarded the entire distance. I don’t know if the two rollerbladers I saw made it the whole way but the skateboarder did.
Rapid Robert
September 18, 2010
Helmets do nothing to keep riders safe. They only might help after the fact. Best practice is safe riding technique, paying attention and not drinking alcohol when riding a bike. All the lidless riders who fell last night are probably just fine today (but sore). Helmets are not necessary for safe riding on this ride, but whatever makes you more comfortable on the bike is a good thing.
SteveSgt
September 18, 2010
I believe in helmets. I probably would now either be dead or an acerebral vegetable after being thrown 30+’ across Montague Expressway by a DB in a car passing on the right in a shoulder one otherwise quiet commute ride home in 1997. There was a 1/4″ pebble imbedded in my helmet that could have pierced my skull instead.
However, I agree that, “safe riding technique, paying attention and not drinking alcohol when riding a bike,” are good tactics to keep you from finding out whether your helmet works or not.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Hey Robert, next time we ride together I’d like to tell you about Rory Tomasello and his minor vehicle/car collision in my home town that cost him his life. I know helmets are a hot-button topic and my goal is not to sway the opinion of anyone one way or the other. But I enjoy chatting with you while we ride together and this could be an interesting conversation.
Love ya man, looking forward to our next ride.
Rapid Robert
September 19, 2010
I look forward to that conversation. I too have been dead twice and brought back. Once while drafting a truck I lost control and woke up days later. Once while driving and a car turned left in front of me for no reason (other driver was 85yo and drunk). I didn’t get a helmet, I stopped drafting trucks and drive way more alert and expectant of the unexpected. Anyone here wear a helmet while driving? I didn’t think so.
To each his own.
Meghan Collins
September 20, 2010
Everyone has to accept a measure of risk in just about every thing they do. But Robert – unless you offer evidence that wearing a bike helmet does some kind harm to contend with the research and anecdotal evidence of their effectiveness, it’s irresponsible to try to persuade others not to use them.
Rapid Robert
September 20, 2010
The harm is that wearing helmets encourage riskier riding. Take the helmets off those who wear them and watch them slow down. It’s a well established fact. Also, the focus on helmets as a panacea that will always protect sets up a situation where there can easily be a false security. Defective helmets, improper attachment, snag injuries, neck injuries, lights firmly attached. All work against the advantages they offer. Then there’s the focus on helmets in lieu of riding technique, foot attachment, eye protection and mirrors for safety on the bike. And finally, the “barrier to entry” they represent for adolescents, and adults who don’t want to mess up their hair on the way to work (you know who I’m talkin’ about).
You asked!
Red panel, white lettering, black base
September 18, 2010
Enjoyed this evening greatly. The meeting at De Anza Foothill was huge. The food was best truck food, ever. Lastly, the final leg was intensely fast and stealth bomber through the gorillas in the mist roadway.
Jake
September 18, 2010
Yha I flew thru the end. It was a lot of fun. I had a really good time at this bike party. And to ever lost the case of beer in the road “thanx”. And I Think ZOMBIES would rock.
Big O
September 18, 2010
Want to thank the multiple law enforcement agencies who helped with the event. Their presence help lanes clear for us and drivers, and for the most part sent the message to any would be rabble-rousers that theres zero tolerance. Someone did get bold at one of the regroups and tried to start fighting but PD was there quick to break it up. Just wish they’d have caught those idiots lighting fireworks at Foothill College.
On a lighter note, this was a really fun ride. My only complaint over all were the long stretches of 2 lane roads and folks weren’t letting cars through. I was trying to help the BIRDs out with enforcing the rules, a few times others did jump in and repeat.
Non Scallywag
September 18, 2010
Well, judging from just 13 comments, it looks like at least two douches still made it out to bike party.
Jynelle
September 18, 2010
Whats with you guys and anyone who disagrees with you being “douches”.
Try describing these “douches” behavior without describing yourselves.
You harass people that don’t agree with you.
You censor comments.
Attempt to bully, exclude and coerce. What makes this ok? That you see yourselves as cool Cyclist above the same judgments you lay thickly on others. I had no idea the organizers where so hypocritical.
Well it doesn’t matter Critical Mass doesn’t belong to you and neither do the streets or cycling. Thank goodness, and on that note, thanks to all the people who kept posting the map! Arrrrr!
scott
September 18, 2010
what other words should be applied to the people whose behavior is threatening bike party from going on? on the other hand, what effect (good, bad or ugly) did limiting the distribution have? i mean does this hurt bike party too cuz we’re supposed to be open to everybody.
in some ways i think we all lost on this one. it took a ton of time for the volunteers to do what they did, and many good people didn’t show up.
it was a loss that the last few months the vast majority of riders were not willing to step up and say no to stupid and illegal behavior to. it was a loss for all that had to endure that.
hats off to whomever tries to keep bike party from getting canceled and still keep it fun and relevant.
Jynelle
September 18, 2010
Well met Scott.
SteveSgt
September 19, 2010
I think assigning the term “douch-bag” as an epithet toward those disruptive elements and destructive menaces on the ride demeans an anachronistic feminine hygiene appliance.
The English language is rich with other terms which, though perhaps not as evocative of the same distasteful image, better describe the individuals in question and their behavior.
I would propose any of the following would be better to use in future discussions on this board:
miscreant, malefactor, reprobate, or malfeasant. In addition, my recent superficial research into Caribbean pirate dialect yielded some other appropriate and colorful terms: rapscallion, picaroon, and of course the harshest and most distasteful of these, skallywag.
Ian
September 18, 2010
just for the record. bike party is not critical mass nor does it aspire to be. if you want critical mass you should ride with them.
Meghan Collins
September 20, 2010
Strawman: “That you see yourself as cool Cyclist above the same judgements you lay thickly on others.”
That is not a real argument. You can bet they make mistakes – they’re attempting to stretch their awareness beyond themselves. Moreover, they do the best they can. The only difference between a BIRD and a DB is a commitment to the safety and well-being of others around them.
scott
September 20, 2010
@Meghan –
“The only difference between a BIRD and a DB is a commitment to the safety and well-being of others around them.”
the biggest difference perhaps, but a lot of differences.
@Jynelle –
totally wish that method wasn’t done to exclude people, but i do agree with the attempt to “do something.”
you said:
“hypocritical”– no
“judgmental” — yes
“critical mass” — huh
“owns the ride” — huh?
i think the goal was to exclude those that would do anything they want.. cuz these guys were probably pissing off the motorists, other cyclists, police and others. so i think those people weren’t welcome.
btw, is judgemental always a bad thing? if based on actual experience? applying it blindly to others isn’t tho. ;-/ so i hear ya there.
all of this sounds like a good convo to have over a test ride,
cuz these conversations online don’t work as well.
there’s one on sunday and some bike partiers are going to the Tour de Fat on saturday in sf (via car/truck and BART i believe)… i’m sure there will be other test rides this month as well. they’re like old school bike party rides.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=143836318988188
Jynelle
September 22, 2010
@ Scott
Hypocritical. I think yes. I assume you mean community, not club. I agree with “bag o douche” they put it perfectly. I goes against almost everything on the Q and A of Bike Party. Also Pirates? O.k. at least we all should admit our theme was hypocritical.
Critical Mass: “huh?”
“Critical Mass is a bicycling event typically held on the last Friday of every month in over 300 cities around the world.[1] The ride was originally founded in 1992 in San Francisco with the idea of drawing attention to how unfriendly the city was to cyclists.[2] In fact, the purpose of Critical Mass is not usually formalized beyond the direct action of meeting at a set location and time and traveling as a group through city or town streets on bikes.”
Hope that clears it up and honors, not insults, those who first organized like events to our bike party in our own Bay Area.
“Owns the ride. ” Like so many awesome things like bike party I find it most effective for sustainability to remember that our riders ARE bike party. Our volunteers are awesome, but we should never forget how many people don’t have the luxury of being a volunteer and that it us as a whole that makes it the great event it is. From the overworked “roady” to the kids who it is their first big bike ride, it takes all kinds and not everyone knows a volunteer personally and I would bet a Fat Tire some of those people are even more courteous and helpful than the people who decided to make it exclusives to their personal friends and network.
I enjoy your comments and thoughts and for the record agree with most of them….they are some of the most reasonable I heard in person or online so thanks…. and thanks too for the heads up for everyone on those great events, but alas work/family obligations have my weekend.
@Meghan “That you see yourself as cool Cyclist above the same judgments you lay thickly on others.” strawman?
I do apologize…that comment was supposed to have a question mark….that said…. I think the very idea that the organizers friends and their friends are miraculously not disruptive, drunk, rude, do illegal things and what not is highly judgmental and thinking of one’s self and friends as “cooler” with a capital. The bottom line is we excluded far more more good than “bad” (which there was still plenty of lets not lie to ourselves), and the way I figure it, until that is not the case…….. it was a major loss.
scott
September 22, 2010
Jynelle, Meghan –
“Can’t we just get along?”
(I hope this is in the right area, this new embedded reply thing is cool with 20 comments, but crazy difficult after 50)
If the vast middle of the ride had stepped up to shout down those with bad behavior I doubt the “route distribution” would have happened like it did. That and 150 new BIRDs were both asked for… some great riders stepped up, but only about 30. So it is the riders that didn’t step up. that didn’t feel it important enough to “own the ride.”
Don’t have time? I don’t buy that! Everyone has time to volunteer during the ride every few rides. It’s just like people not having money to buy a $15-20 headlight set that might save you from injury or worse… yet you’ll drop that and more on other things.
Isn’t it all about choices? If sj bike party is important to me, I’ll step up. If I know that bike party is at risk, I should really step up. If I enjoy it, but assume it’ll be around every month, I won’t. So let’s hope we get people to step up, the term “DB” isn’t ever used again and that personal responsibility shoots up in a big way over the next two weeks!
Hundreds of opinions after the last 3 rides, I invite all with strong opinions to join a test ride this Sunday. Or post on here under my other post of what you are actually going to do for bike party. Otherwise, I’m sorry, but talk without action and follow up seems to be nothing but “hot air.”
Rider 44
September 22, 2010
Jynelle,
You said…
I find it most effective for sustainability to remember that our riders ARE bike party. Our volunteers are awesome, but we should never forget how
many people don’t have the luxury of being a volunteer and that it us as a whole that makes it the great event it is.
Wow, I should stay out of this, but that was just so rich with content, I can’t resist.
Jynelle said> remember that our riders ARE bike party.
I guess I disagree on that one.
When I look at the hub or the active birds, I think they ARE bike party. When I see the music trailers and the fun happy people in costume, I think they ARE bike party. When I see people helping others, I think they ARE bike party.
When I see people littering at regroups, or people throwing garbage along the route, or people looting convenience stores, or people blowing red lights. I DON’T think they ARE bike party.
I think they ARE jerks that ARE tarnishing what IS bike party.
That’s my personal opinion.
And when I see the hub making decisions to try to exclude people that do things that, in my personal opinion, tarnish what I think IS bike party, I have no problem with that.
Jynelle said> Luxury of being a volunteer
I was going to say, ‘check the definition’. But I googled it and the first definition was, ‘Something inessential but conductive to pleasure and comfort’
so I guess you are right Jynelle, technically.
Having volunteers clean up litter at regroups isn’t essential, but it is conductive to pleasure and comfort.
Having volunteers stationed at lights telling the group when to turn to stay on the route isn’t essential, but it is conductive to pleasure and comfort.
Obviously I could go on through many dozens of tasks that volunteers do that aren’t essential, but they are conductive to pleasure and comfort.
Conductive to the pleasure and comfort of bike party.
The second definition google returned was, ‘Something expensive or hard to obtain’.
I guess I’d rephrase your sentence to, ‘Luxury of having volunteers’.
If we had to pay for a ticket to an event that had the incredible amount of service done by all the volunteers, I don’t think any of us could afford that admission ticket.
Or maybe you meant it that I have the luxury of being able to volunteer with a lot of other people that do way more than I do. Yes, that is indeed a luxury.
But if you meant that it is a luxury because your schedule won’t allow you to come on a test ride or to the volunteer meetings, let me encourage you.
There are LOTS of ways you can volunteer that don’t fit in to those few narrow time slots. Just speak up and say what you are willing to do.
Then you can know the joy of living that luxurious life of being a volunteer. I know I still like it, otherwise I probably wouldn’t still do it.
Jynelle said> it is us as a whole that makes it the great event it is.
Again, I guess I disagree on that one. If this ‘whole’ were missing the jerks, I sure wouldn’t mind. Wouldn’t bother me in the least.
It’s not like this is some 1 Corinthians 12:14-21 thing. Bike party neither needs or wants the jerks that break the rules.
They don’t make it greater, they make it much much worse.
Jynelle> I find it most effective for sustainability
Thank you for sharing your personal conviction for most effective sustainability.
The hub developed their convictions for most effective sustainability. Shared them. Repeatedly. And then acted on their conviction for most effective sustainability. I guess their convictions do not line up with your convictions.
Hmmmm, the hub has actions to go with their convictions, you, Jynelle, on the other hand, what actions do you have that go with your convictions?
Jynelle
September 22, 2010
@ Rider 44
I really hope you were not insinuating that I don’t act on my convictions. That I don’t volunteer/help etc when I can. You don’t know even know me. If I was assuming things I would assume you have never been in a situation where you really don’t have the time or emotional/physical energy to spare and great for you. I mean it, I would not wish it on anyone.
Though, I think it would be a good idea for your sake if you learned some empathy and possibly some tact. Only an exclusive bike ride with your closest friends than might keep you from someone not as peaceful and virtual as myself.
On that note, no body wants to deal with jerks. But quite simply the kind of person who would say messed up ignorant things to someone they don’t even know like “Hmmmm, the hub has actions to go with their convictions, you, Jynelle, on the other hand, what actions do you have that go with your convictions? ” is just the kind of person I would like to keep out of bike party. That kind of ignorant, arrogant, aggressive behavior is of the same kind you claim you are trying to get rid of. The difference I assume is you are not on a bike currently.
You see I can not make you behave how I wish, make you act in accordance with my comfort and values, but I will not exclude you, insult you, coerce you etc hoping to be successful.
The organizers work hard and we are all glad for their work, time and solutions. Whether its Food not Bombs, Critical Mass SF, the Library, House Shows, Community Gardens etc its public by nature and there will be jurks…sometimes they are us. Its how we deal with undesirable behavior that says where we really stand as a movement/idea/person etc.
Its people like me questioning and commenting that help the people who are responsible make better decisions when presented with challenges. This is one way I volunteer. If a few cyclist are jerks should we keep bikes off our public streets? If a few hungry people act badly should I make FNB for the privileged few? The library? They deal with this too.
I wouldn’t keep you out of bike party because I don’t think you are cool. Though I will take the good with the bad, settle for communication, trial and error and reason and hope we all become better people for it.
@ Scott I fully agree most everyone can volunteer AT the ride, (not some people with kids in reality, but most.) Most can’t on off days and hours though. I can and have volunteered. One is problem is alot of people come a long way, often without a car and in California that is not a small endeavor. Hey, if bike party is the one thing some people can make time for, or can afford that is great and we should be glad to have them. Activist burn out one “o” one is “choose your battles, take care of yourself too”
Its the overworked, the grieving, the all over the board activist, the awesome family member who gives their all to their people etc that need a party the most. When we loose our empathy we loose the community and diversity that makes Bike Party what it is. We don’t build community when we exclude the way we did.
When so many said variations on “well you can start your own Bike Party” All I could think of was A. than they did not see it as mine too because I disagreed with one idea or them.
B. I thought” yeah good idea, we will keep having Bike Party and they can have an exclusive ride.”
Yeah know?
I think we all want to see this fun ride thrive. I assume that’s why we are this forum. So again, well met.
enjoy a fat tire for me….
Rider 44
September 22, 2010
@Jynelle.
Obviously I typed way too many words earlier and smashed down on your toes.
Sorry about that.
I shouldn’t have. My bad.
I apologize, please forgive me.
Let’s have that Fat Tire some time.
That’s a good idea.
Jynelle
September 27, 2010
@rider44
Cool…sounds awesome.
Venus
September 18, 2010
I like it much better than the August one. Everything was very well organized. People were very polite and the music was GREAT. I love the fact that everyone is screaming “LET THE CARS GO THROUGH or RED LIGHTS (PARTY)” aha.. It seems like everyone is trying to enforce the “How we ride” rules, which is awesome. There were a couple douche-bags but so far, its great. Keep it up SJBIKEPARTY.
jimmyneutron
September 18, 2010
So, my second time going out for the bike party and yes very true way more organized than last ride “August LED” ride. Good job everyone who contributed to helping the ride go more smoothly.
Bike Party- 1
Douche Riders/people – 0
Oh yeah another note, the whole idea with having the route limited to some people is great. Flushes out all the drunkies.
No Manches
September 18, 2010
I think it’s hilarious that everyone is quick to chalk this up as a W.
I still smelled plenty of Cali’s finest. I still saw plenty of sipping going on. And I witnessed plenty of liquid-courage.
What exactly did the secret info. solve?
I found out about the ride from a DB that’s friends with a BIRD.
[mod/tr: yes, mixed success, long way to go. still need 100-150 new BIRDs by Oct's anniversary ride and still less DB behavior]
Billy Cool
September 19, 2010
Did we think we were going to go from a great deal of disruptive and dangerous behavior to 100% perfection in one month. Heck no, but the “W” we can claim is that we’re trying to mitigate the issues and from many of the comments, we are moving in the right direction. We are pleased that the crowds are helping out, we are pleased that very few of us BIRDs got yelled at or made fun of, we are pleased that more people are self policing themselves at lights.
Some hard headed kids still run red lights, etc, but inch by inch we hope to change the Bike Party culture for the better. Rome wasn’t built in a day. So yes, we are considering this a W. I have spoken to many BIRDs about this ride and they fell like they have had their batteries recharged, and are looking foward to next months ride with child-like excitement. That’s a huge W in MHO.
Billy the Kid
September 19, 2010
Exactly! This was our first time doing invite-only, and we certainly couldn’t expect perfection. We did good. And we learned a few things, so next time we do invite-only, we’ll do even better. Now we know to work harder on protecting the secrecy. Now we know the freeloaders will work hard to find out where we are. (I’m still waiting to hear what happened the Ride of the Uninvited that started at City Hall. Did those guys ride or what?)
As with anything, there is a learning curve. This was an improvement, and we can improve further still with what we’ve learned in the process.
Yes, this is a Win.
Chazie
September 18, 2010
Awesome ride! There were less drunk people, more following the rules, and less people thinking they’re the shit for riding on the left lane. But there were still a lot of people riding on the left lane, just saying there was less of them this time. Also, more people were yelling “right lane” this time around. Right lane party!
Loved the cops involvement! Although some of them were pretty darn reckless. I guess they were a bit annoyed of the people riding on the left lane, but when one cop car just zipped by all crazy-like, he could have hit someone who was being stupid trying to get in the left lane. I understand it’s their fault for not following the rules, but still, it was scary.
That bridge towards the end killed me.
Anyway, I saw a bunch of birds this time around which was cool. I thought the secret thing was a pretty good success.
Did you guys delete the Facebook group page? And what’s up with the forums? They’re not working at all
Thanks, guys, for making all of this happen! It was an awesome night!!!
[mod/tr: yes, mixed success. FB group page is not, FB fan page and forums were pulled offline due to DB issues]
Austin
September 18, 2010
I agree. I still saw a lot of fools drop their empties on the street and I smelled a lot of weed at every rest stop. But people were a lot better at stopping for the reds.
scott
September 19, 2010
Trash? Ugh! Each regroup is a mess. We each need to pick up stuff. Why people feel entitled to trash the streets and the regroups is part of the culture we all can work on to change I hope. In the mean time, we need volunteers to help clean up. 3-5 people can clean up a regroup relatively quickly. But it’s a bummer they have to miss out on BP for 15-30min… but this trash issue is a big one why people don’t like Bike Party.
sk8dad
September 20, 2010
I started to pick up random empty Modelo’s at one of the stops in Cupertino, but gave up. There were too many. I did notice that a lot of riders were staring at me as I dropped serveral cans at a time into a garbage can. I didn’t see anyone else pick up anything? People just can’t be bothered to care it seems.
Meghan Collins
September 20, 2010
I stopped by the first regroup area the next afternoon, and the place looked pristine – better than on any other day. Whoever went back to clean up really outdid themselves. I hope it was our people.
Garrett Birkel
September 18, 2010
Big ol’ pictures up …
http://garote.livejournal.com/183756.html
Fewer than usual since I had to take time out at the start and the second stop to fix my damn helmet. Aharrrr!!! Got to bust out the soldering iron again.
scott
September 18, 2010
as always the next best thing to being there… these are always very “immersive experience” type pics, lol
NonPirate
September 18, 2010
I was a motorist trying to enter a 7-11 parking lot on Homestead last night, caught by surprise with the bike traffic. A cluster of cyclists exiting the parking lot forced me to stop in the driveway while they rode out, uttering profanity. One popped a wheelie and rode straight at my car, veering to one side at the last moment, and hit my car with his hand as he went past. There was a strong smell of beer in the air when I stepped out of the car.
Continuing on to the intersection of Hollenbeck & Homestead, trying to make a left turn, at least a dozen cyclists jumped the red light, obstructing those of us in the left turn lane who had a green arrow and the right of way. Half a dozen red light runners were observed at the Homestead/Mary intersection as well.
This might have been a fun event for the majority of riders, but the behaviors I observed made me uncomfortable.
sk8dad
September 20, 2010
Sorry to hear that this happened to you. The individuals with whom you interacted are the exact element we are trying to eliminate from the event. How embarrassing for the rest of us. Please understand that, unlike Critical Mass, it is not our intent to harass motorists.
Jahlaen
September 18, 2010
This was a HUGE turn-around situation from last month’s all time low.
I think Bike Party has righted the ship, however; perfection was not achieved.
Now that SJBP is headed in the right direction, we need to continue making progress.
**Bike Party forever!
Coolrthancoolio
September 18, 2010
I want to be come a BIRDie now….
Katie
September 18, 2010
Great! We’re having a test ride this Saturday, where you can get hooked up. Check the site for the time/location. We’d love your help!
Mountain View Resident
September 18, 2010
Loud music, drinking, and nighttime bike riding shouldn’t mix. I can’t believe such a poorly conceived idea is an actual event. My 4 month old daughter was woken by screaming and blaring music from riders played from 11:oopm – 12:00am. If this is a San Jose event, it should stay in San Jose. Please don’t bring rowdy drunkeness to quiet neighborhoods where residents are sleeping. People have a right to have fun on Friday night, but not at the expense of quiet, hard working families who just wish to rest. If this is a real event, it needs a real venue – not neighborhoods!
Rapid Robert
September 18, 2010
Loud music and bike riding is a GREAT mix!!! That’s why the group was soooo big. I agree with the drinking. Bicycle riders who want to get a buzz should stick to smoking weed. There’s NO effect on balance, and that’s an enormous advantage.
People bring rowdy drunkeness to quiet neighborhoods all the time. It’s called a “party”. Tolerate. Call the police. It was a couple of hours on one night in your life. Besides, after four months, you should be used to screaming and blaring by now!
Mountain View Resident
September 18, 2010
I have called the police, and I will share your unhelpful and insensitive comments with the City Council when I go there next Tuesday.
b5125125
September 18, 2010
I’ve said this before, but wait till that 4 month old is 16teen and wants to come down to SJ to join the party and find out he/she could have partied in his own town but mommie killed it.
moo
September 18, 2010
RR, I hope you’re not implying that because other people bring rowdy drunkness to quiet neighborhoods that it’s OK for SJBP to do so. It is not the intent of SJBP to bring rowdy drunkness anywhere. Also, please note that Rapid Robert’s view on smoking weed is his personal opinion (which he is entitled to). It does not necessarily represent everyone’s opinion.
The combination of loud music and bike riding works well, but not combined with quiet neighborhoods. It seems that this month’s route steered clear of small neighborhood streets and used larger multi-lane roads wherever possible. That being said, I think it’s worthwhile for SJBP to ask riders to turn down the volume after 10pm even on the larger residential streets. Commercial zones such as El Camino Real are probably OK.
Mountain View Resident
September 18, 2010
Thank you for your response Moo. I think all anyone is asking for is consideration and respect. No one wants to infringe on anyone’s right to have a party, but cyclists/partiers can’t act like they are in their friend’s living room or inside their favorite pub when they are in fact out on a public street during a time designated by our city as quiet hours.
For the record, we are not on a large street, we are on one-lane Villa Street. I wonder if our street was part of the route or if it was used to avoid bottlenecks on either California Street or El Camino Real.
In any event, if people can pass through in a manner that shows some consideration, by all means, please pass on through. It sounds like there are designated stops for people to mingle and play music. If riders choose to act without consideration for others though, then the event will ultimately be doomed – just look at what jerks have done to the once wonderful Bay-To-Breakers – pissing in people’s front yards, dropping trash, etc. Let that example serve as an FYI to well-intentioned planners: an event most certainly can get too big. Police were out but incapable of controlling noise and drinking in a meaningful way last night.
moo
September 18, 2010
I think Villa Street was the only one-lane street on the route this month, and I believe it was put there to enable the riders to go under Shoreline Blvd to Castro Street and to avoid car traffic on Central Expressway. Unfortunately, it’s very difficult to find a route that completely avoids hazardous roads and small residential streets.
Thank you for your comment and perspective, and apologies for waking up your daughter.
Rapid Robert
September 18, 2010
I’m implying that a rolling party on bicycles is not a sewing circle, and that occasional disturbances of the peace should be expected by those who choose to live on a downtown street. And my “view” on weed’s a personal recommendation followed by an undisputed medical fact.
If I had a music bike, I’d turn certainly adjust the volume for different areas. But to suggest that an event such as SJBP be confined to some “venue” by someone who characterizes it as a “poorly conceived idea” is ridiculous.
Mountain View Resident
September 18, 2010
Robert, so glad that you agree that music bikes could be turned down (I’m guessing that your stance on screaming is also that it could be kept to a minimum, say after 11).
You are right that we are not without noise here, and that being woken up late is sadly not without precedent. I have been woken before, this is the first time my daughter has, though.
Comparing a dude on a chopper, an idiot blaring his car stereo, or the drunk lady near us in Building B shouting “I love you!” to her friends as she gets out of her cab at 2 am to 2,800 cyclists with boom boxes strapped to their bikes is an argument fraught with illogic. The three sad cases I mentioned each quieted within a minute or two. The cyclists were passing us continuously and were heard nearly continuously for over an hour.
I think if you represent this SJBP you shouldn’t be so irreverent or confrontational. You should have a better idea of how to deal with pissed off people as it seems you have a lot of experience with them. There are a whole host of minor tweaks you could do to make the event more tolerable for people who don’t want their sleep interrupted. Odds are you have heard some suggestions. Try implementing them and see if the complaints go down. Being rude and dismissive is not only insensitive and mean, it’s also counterproductive.
Rapid Robert
September 19, 2010
2800 people didn’t have music on their bikes. there were probably 5 that were loud enough to cause the disturbance you describe, but they were distributed evenly throughout. And I don’t “represent” anyone or anything here except my own personal opinions. I certainly don’t speak for SJBP!
I read a lot of “you should” in your messages. My rudeness in your case was only because of your initial two sentences, which are ridiculous in my opinion. My dismissiveness was because there’s nothing that a party of 2800, rolling around an urban environment can do to avoid waking up a few babies.
Perlasum
September 20, 2010
@ rapid robert, I think that was an unnecessary comment.
DJ Rebel Bass
September 18, 2010
I have seen PLENTY of families, young riders, and old riders on the SJBP. and that is what is is all about.
Being a father to a two yr old son I cannot wait for the day he joins me for a night out with thousands of fellow riders and enjoying the spirit of SJBP. At least I know where he will be and I will know he is having a great time and if he ends up in jail it will be with me by his side.
And like Robert said, it was ONE night. It is a shame you could not have enjoyed it with us or the countless families who come out of their houses in the middle of the night and watch us go by.
Forever Bike Party. Bike Party Forever
Mountain View Resident
September 18, 2010
I think your party is in for continued problems if organizers respond to the public as you and Robert have. Kudos to people like Moo who sound like they are willing to problem solve and improve community outreach.
First of all “DJ”, the party isn’t one night, it is one night a month.
Second, rather than excusing inconsiderate behavior by some of your participants and calling people like me who are affected by your parties whiners, better PR for your events might be had by making simple apologies to those negatively impacted and trying to make sure that mistakes aren’t repeated.
moo
September 18, 2010
To clarify the “one night” comment, this is one of the reasons that the routes are different every month. The idea is both to reach out to different areas with each ride as well as to avoid impacting the same neighborhood every month.
On a slightly different subject, I’ve never seen a community event quite like SJBP. I see riders who range from 5 to 70 years old and people from all races and walks of life riding just about every type of bicycle imaginable. It’s this spirit of SJBP that volunteers so desperately want to preserve. It’s an amazing sight.
Mountain View Resident, you’re right in that I’m willing to brainstorm, problem solve, and do my part to improve community outreach, as are many, many of the volunteers and riders of SJBP. Many of their ideas are on these pages, but there are significant challenges to overcome. Hopefully, we collectively can come up with enough solutions to make this all work.
Rapid Robert
September 18, 2010
So how many times has SJBP ridden past your house?!? How does your 4 month old respond to motorcycles? To cars radiating bass so loud it moves things on shelves? My point was simply that you’re living on a public street in a downtown area, not on a quiet cul-de-sac in suburban isolation. I’m certain you chose it partly because of its proximity to “the action”.
There’s always one complaint that we woke a baby on each of our rides. OK, we woke up a baby. Sorry if I’m not inclined to advocate changing our routes or policy because we woke a baby. 8^/
I’m a geek. You want sensitivity, watch Oprah.
moo
September 18, 2010
Despite what Rapid Robert wrote above, there *has* been a shift in routes. If you were to look at earlier routes, especially when the ride was much smaller, you will see that many more residential areas were included. In more recent months, you’ll notice that small residential streets are usually avoided on the tail end (late night part) of the route, specifically to reduce the noise impact.
Practically speaking, there aren’t many places even in San Jose that can accommodate thousands of bicycle riders on a 25-30 mile route on a monthly basis. There have been complaints posted on this board about waking babies on 10th Street in San Jose, a three-lane one-way downtown thoroughfare. Expressways are smooth, but cars travelling at 50mph in lanes next to bicycles are a dangerous mix. Commercial areas aren’t arranged in 25-30 mile loops, and are frequently connected by residential areas.
It could be argued that the problems could be eliminated by not having SJBP exist at all. Most of the 2800 riders would probably return to sedentary Friday night activities, likely interacting only within their small circle of friends. I hope people in the community are able to see the positive aspects of SJBP and its amazingly diverse crowd of riders (which also includes a significant number of quiet hard-working people).
Everyone should be aware that complaints do not fall on deaf ears, and that many volunteers with SJBP do read this page actively. The limited distribution of this month’s route was an experiment intended to curb some of the bad behavior seen on recent rides, and I’m sure we’ll see other attempts to improve the ride and lessen any negative impact.
Rapid Robert, there’s a difference between asking for forgiveness and demanding that someone put up with something. I’m choosing the former, even though I’ve been called a geek too 8)
Rapid Robert
September 18, 2010
All well put Moo! And you’re right about the routes being planned with all the comments from non-riders in mind. I’m just … personally … in favor of riding where we get people out of their air conditioned passive entertainment modules and onto the street, even though we’ll wake a few babies in the process.
It’s a celebration of life! By taxpaying citizens, many of whom also had to work in the morning. But again, that’s one opinion out of hundreds of volunteers who influence where we go next.
scott
September 18, 2010
@RR – all influence us, many helped us last night. but we don’t have hundreds of volunteers. more like 30-50 active BIRDs last night. with 10-20 semi active BIRDs. thats 1/100th of the total white!
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
In their September 18, 2010 at 5:57 PM comment, moo wrote,
‘many of their ideas are on these pages’
Would like a common moderated forum where these thoughts could be organized.
I think it’d help in several different ways.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks!
Billy Cool
September 18, 2010
MV Resident: We understand about your inconvenience and we do apologize. Somewhere on our instructions this month one of the volunteers did post “Please keep music down in residential areas late at night.”
I have a loud sound system on my bike (not one of the big music trailers) and I turn it down when late and going past apts/houses on 2 lane roads.
We are working hard to make SJBP a safe/pleasant experience for the community at large. It is hard to get everyone to follow “How we Ride” but we will contiue to be proactive in trying to make the ride better for our bike riders, motorists, and community members.
Jake
September 19, 2010
But we have nevr gone the same way twice. We wont be back next month. Y does it bother you so much? I get bugged by cars every day. They almost hit my y i ride. I have to deal with all the noise they make. You can deal with one night a bunch of guys ridding there bikes and make some noise. And WTF is the MTV city council going to do about it. And did anyone else see that asshole cop on the motorcycle almost trying to hit people?
Perlasum
September 20, 2010
@ rapid robert, y the negativity? i think your comments make it clear that you don’t represent bike party…. maybe you should try reading the purpose.
San José Bike Party aims to achive our mission in a way that enacts the change we wish to see in our ommunity. Toward this vision, Bike Party aims to be:
SUSTAINABLE: Bicycling is low-cost, energy-efficient, and healthy. Bike Party rides aim to demonstrate a tangible alternative to car-based transportation and continue to provide a focal point for the local bike-friendly community for the long term. We aim to leave no trace behind except a good will towards cyclists in the areas we travel.
EMPOWERING & INCLUSIVE: Bicycling frees people from costly fees, stuffy cars, sedentary lifestyles, and dreadful commutes. Bike Party rides aim to teach riders the street skills and confidence they need to become daily riders on all kinds of roads. Riders of all ages, skills, and styles of bikes are welcome at Bike Party.
COLLABORATIVE & TRANSPARENT: Bicycling has many allies, from environmentalists to urban planners to conservationists to health advocates. Bike Party aims to collaborate with the many local and regional
organizations whose missions dovetail with our own, from local businesses and governments to bike advocacy and cultural organizations. Bike Party
aims to operate transparently and work together with all who hope to create a better, more bike-friendly city.
LOCAL: Bicycling is the ultimate local transportation – a person on a bike will intimately know the streets she travels and easily explore diverse areas and encounter personal interactions everywhere. Bike Party rides
explore different neighborhoods and streets of the San Jose area and with every ride it builds familiarity and connection with our proud city. San Jose residents deserve alternatives activities and a world-class bike ride provides the stepping stone to make the city a happier place to live. We love San Jose.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Dear Mountain View Resident,
I agree with your entire September 18, 2010 at 11:36 AM post.
Perfectly stated. Thank you.
Hopefully it will be well read.
Regarding your 8:29am post.
Sorry about that. As a father of three I understand what a drag that is.
My wife and I look back on those times and don’t miss those sleep interruptions. I hope that in a few years you are able to do as I have done and share the joys of cycling with your children. I just sent you a friend request. If you ever have any questions about cycling with young children I’ll be happy to tell you what I’ve learned.
Take care,
David
Meghan Collins
September 20, 2010
Dear Mountainview Resident,
I just wanted to let you know I acknowledge your eloquently stated grievances, and I assure you there is a substantial number of SJBP community members who actively strive to make a better event for everyone. I think moo has done a really good job addressing your concerns, and I hope he has done so to your satisfaction.
jonathan krier
September 18, 2010
i like turtles
Jake
September 20, 2010
Me too. They taste great, almost as good as penguins.
theCat
September 18, 2010
I missed the ride, didn’t get an invite.
Seems like the secrecy didn’t solve the problem, only made the ride smaller. But that really is the solution; fewer bikes means fewer idiots on bikes.
From my years of experience riding in SJ, I don’t think SJ has the kind of community to support a large ride. Motorists are insanely aggressive, there are no city-supported bike events and the police act like cyclists are vermin.
There is a lot of work to do turning all that around, quite apart from organizing a large ride. I think that a smaller ride, laser-focused on etiquette and safety, and that promotes a positive image of community cycling will be the only thing that does it.
I’m happy to miss the rides if they can pull off the above. Stay the course hearties, as Dread Cap’n Blackbird would say, and let right action do the rest.
theCat
Ian
September 18, 2010
so if you weren’t there how do you know it wasn’t effective.
seemed to work to me and everyone i talked to.
If you want to organize a ride that sounds like a great idea… Let us know when it is so we can help promote it.
theCat
September 18, 2010
Relax.
People are complaining in comments. The complaints sound familiar enough to me. They are fewer, that was my point. I’m not really interested in rides; I ride 60 miles a day, 1000 miles a month. I thought SJBP was a neat idea that could make a difference for community-based cycling. I still think it is, and it will. But it will probably change first because the local environment is hostile to the idea and the party needs to adopt a defensive position.
That’s enough from me. This ship sails with the tide.
Good luck, bike party.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Thanks Cat, I know what you mean. Appreciate what you shared. Ride safe, David
Cameron
September 19, 2010
Insanely aggressive? SJ is the sweetest place I’ve ever ridden a bicycle. There’s more of a problem with motorists stopping to give me the right-of-way when they’re not supposed to, than with any aggression. (I learned to ride a bike in traffic in DC.) Drivers here are mellow. Just make sure they see you.
PoweredbyBeanersLOL
September 18, 2010
It was great ride and I did help out birds as much as I could. It was great to see them in force but we know that we need more. There were a few turns that were missed by groups here and there but otherwise it was a good job. The police force really helped out a lot, hopefully they can do what they did last night on every bike ride if their resources allow.
My only concern now is whether or not next month’s ride will be shrouded in secrecy? Does anyone think that limiting the map made this ride better? In my opinion I think that people in tune with the message about last month’s ride being a disaster they were ready to step up, even in small ways. At times during the ride last night I heard many different voices call out the “How we ride rules”. For a lot of those not “in the know” the bike was posted on the forums until they took it down.
I would not have attended at all if this even at all if I it were not posted on there. I think a few lessons can be learned on both sides when trying to progress this event into the best that it could be. So can we take a vote on whether or not the bike route map is limited next month or not?
SteveSgt
September 18, 2010
I saw the chaos in the August ride and said to myself, “if I want this to continue, then I have to do something about this.” I went on a couple of test rides, met the good people who are already working way harder than I am at organizing this, and now I have new friends and a fun ride to go on. I consider that a pretty sweet deal for me: I did them a favor (promised to help “guide” riders), and they did me one (told me where they were planning to ride). In turn, I’ve told all of my friends, people who I trust not to be drunken fools or some other destructive menace, so they could join me. Win-Win again!
I liked that the map was distributed through social networks rather than published opening. I think only distributing the ride info through personal connections does more to, “build community through bicycling.”
Jynelle
September 22, 2010
“I liked that the map was distributed through social networks rather than published opening. I think only distributing the ride info through personal connections does more to, “build community through bicycling.”
Cool point …
Though, than on the exclusive rides the map needs to be distributed a lot sooner than 24 hours as a courtesy to distance, lifestyle differences etc.
@PoweredbyBeanersLOL
Great post. With you the whole way.
“So can we take a vote on whether or not the bike route map is limited next month or not?” good idea…
SteveSgt
September 27, 2010
I gave out the route the several “new friends” who I got to know in the days leading up to the ride in a number of ways: 1) interested coworkers, 2) employees at retail establishments with whom I have had a long-term acquaintance, 3) members of other clubs I belong to, both cycling and non-cycling clubs, and 4) a few people who took the time to have friendly conversations on the day-of or day-before the ride when I was wearing a “BIRD” tag on my shirt or jacket.
Do I know for certain that none of these people were miscreants on the ride? No. But my invitees I did see on the ride were most certainly following “how we ride” by all appearances.
The maps was available for BIRDs to distribute on late Tuesday night before the Friday ride. That gave me a lot of time to spread it around.
A different Mountain View resident
September 18, 2010
Thanks for coming through our neighborhood tonight, I’m not able to go on the rides but I love seeing the party come through. This is the second one I’ve seen go down California St in MV and it looked like everyone was having a blast.
One thing that I was surprised about, seen last night in person and in some of the reflection comments of previous rides, was how some simple mechanical problems sideline people for a long time. (flat tires etc). I ended up helping with a broken pedal from the sidelines. People seem more than willing to stop and help out but don’t always have the right tools/equipment. Maybe set up some of the volunteers with a backpack full of tubes and simple tools, or set up some repair checkpoints every 5 miles or so along the ride?
Bike party on!
Big O
September 18, 2010
Its always recommended people at least bring a spare inner tube because its a pain to try to patch a pin size hole, not to mention the time. The bikes should be checked before even bringing them out.
Ian
September 19, 2010
i saw on homestead after the first regroup someone had setup a free air station for folks to fill up their tires.. very cool idea…
Cameron
September 20, 2010
That was me and my gf. She’s new to the area and doesn’t ride, but wanted to experience SJBP. Said it was the silliest date she’d ever been on. We filled eight or ten tires. Everyone was really nice. I had spare tubes but the one guy who needed one wouldn’t take it, go figure. We got the pirate stuff at Affordable Treasures on Los Gatos Blvd.
Rider 44
September 20, 2010
Thanks Cameron,
That’s awesome! I just sent you a friend request and, next month when I make the next batch of spoke cards, I’ll send two of them your way. (one for each of you)
perlasum
September 20, 2010
aye’ me parrot concurs
sanjosebikeblog
September 18, 2010
Awesome ride last night! Thank you Birds and SJBP Volunteers! That was a smooth running “Ship”! I got 2 flats and was sidelined for awhile but it wasnt so bad thanks to everyone who stopped and chatted with me about Bike Party and bicycling, how about the weather last night? Such a perfect temperature for a Bike Party Ride! SJ Bike Party for life!!
Ian
September 19, 2010
2 flats usually mean that it’s time for new tires. the new modern tires with kevlar in them are pretty puncture resistant until they are worn out.
Cameron
September 22, 2010
Most of my flats in the last two years have been due to bad innertube seams, not punctures or snakebites. Tuffy strips and Kevlar tires won’t protect you from crappy generic PRC butyl rubber innertubes. They just can’t stand 125 psi. So I just throw out the tubes that split, no point in wasting patches when the whole seam is bad.
Mary Ave Resident
September 18, 2010
Your bike party — which passed my house sometime after midnight — was a revelation! Unexpected, it was quiet and orderly, almost dreamlike to observe, and I went out to the sidewalk to experience every minute of it. I won’t forget it. Thanks!
Grammar enthusiast
September 18, 2010
I’m delighted that you enjoyed our presence! Thanks for letting us know!
Meghan Collins
September 20, 2010
We were all tuckered out by the time we turned into Mary, around mile 25 – no wonder we were quiet!
camigamble
September 21, 2010
YAY!!!! I live right near MARY Avenue and I’m so happy to hear a fellow Sunnyvale resident shares my enthusiasm. You should ride next month. It’s even better when you’re a part of the experience!
neil636
September 18, 2010
I thought it was one of the better behaved BPs this year. I like the routes though the west valley better than downtown or the eastside.
rockydawggy
September 18, 2010
this would have been my 5th ride with sjbp (gf would’ve been her first) but i never got a reply back from one of the birds i pm’d to earlier. i ended up disassembling and reassembling my bike last night. so much for the month long anticipation. im glad y’all had fun.
Perlasum
September 20, 2010
I am very sorry that you and your gf missed out on such a great ride…
I am sure alot of others did as well… but, now is a great oppurtinity to get involved. Check out the next test ride this Saturday, keep checking the website for the time and location.
rockydawggy
September 20, 2010
thanks perlasum, will try to get involve next ride. cheers!
perlasum
September 21, 2010
Oh! and its Sunday now, not Sat.
Rider 44
September 21, 2010
Perlasum,
With the ride on Sunday. Depending on the time I may not be able to go, I’ll be manning the bike check booth at Taste of Morgan Hill
http://www.morganhill.org/livesite/TasteofMorganHill.html
There are several beautiful routes (from 24-32 mi round trip) that could start at the Santa Teresa light rail station and end up down here. Let me know if you want the particulars.
None of these routes would be good for a group of 2-4 thousand. But for a Sunday ride… Gorgeous! And don’t forget the free bike check.
Britton
September 18, 2010
Much better vibe at this ride! Lots of good pirate energy coming from the crowds, fewer douchebags, and a bunch of nice long & smooth descents to carry us home.
Billy the Kid
September 18, 2010
This ride was better than the last few, but not as good as it could have been.
There seemed to be more people stopping for red lights. But despite the invitation-only nature of this, we still had a lot of douchebags crash. At one spot, some guys asked me and other BIRDS where the ride was headed. After I told them, the ungrateful dicks took a shortcut on the left sidewalk even as we urged them to stop.
Later, I and other BIRDS directed riders into the parking lot everyone would have missed otherwise, yet when we asked riders to stop a moment to let cars get through, dozens blew us off and one or two even cussed us out.
I came last night expecting something like the East Bay Bike Party: a group of a few hundred riders, well-organized, responsible, and fun. Instead, we got nearly 3,000 riders, the majority responsible, but way too many entitled, ungrateful douchebags.
The people who whined on this forum about not being invited were clearly a small, exclusive bunch. We thought we had sounded a wake up call, but it seems we had barely cleared our throats.
Some people (myself included) thought riders who received directions from a BIRD personally would be grateful enough to respect How We Ride. Last night, I saw that theory disproven.
So the next time we do invite-only (and we should do it next month), let’s be clear that we only invite people we know and can vouch for, and urge them in turn to only invite people they can vouch for. No more giving directions to strangers because they email us and beg or because they meet us at City Hall.
Mogo reportedly posted on the internet their planned stop locations (i.e. our regroups). Next time, let’s only invite food vendors we can trust to act with discretion.
Jynelle
September 18, 2010
I think you should have a separate Invite Only Bike Party call it a Bike Meeting or a Bike Club on the first Friday or something.
I think Mogo was treated poorly and had a right to try and get customers. He should have been told in advance. Bike Party should be how it is described on its own web site.
I am sure both rides will be fun for different folks and for different reasons for both groups.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Agree about the separate bike party. Midnight Ridazz are listed as ‘our inspiration’. Now that SJBP is regularly several
thousand strong, having a way to promote alternate rides would be great.
Ian, in his September 18, 2010 at 10:00 AM post mentioned, ‘If you want to organize a ride that sounds like a great idea… Let us know when it is so we can help promote it.’
Can I hold you to that please Ian? (love ya brother, would like to discuss this with you next time we see each other.)
Ian
September 19, 2010
totally
not that i speak for all of bike party…
or even for most of it
Jynelle
September 22, 2010
@ Rider44
Cool… the more rides the better
Rider 44
September 22, 2010
Pan Dulce
September 18, 2010
Great ride! Cool theme and hella alot less buttholes out there. Can’t wait for next ride.
brettman
September 18, 2010
Addressing all the comments here so far:
• Way fewer douchebags, I think the invite-only technique works much better
• Drinking of alcohol: some people can handle their liquor, others ride erratically and are a danger to everyone
• STAY TO THE RIGHT!!! (especially you slow-ass riders who selfishly meander about in the middle)
• We still need people to use their manners, and not start trouble with people in automobiles
Lastly:
My ass was beat when I got home. I rode from Branham/Almaden Expressway to the start point, and rode back home once the ride was over. Over 52 miles on a 60 pound fully loaded cargo bike can take a lot out of a person, especially when racing skinny-legged fixie boys (they hated the fact that I could still nail them in 1+ mile sprints!!!). I am looking forward to next month’s San Jose Bike Party ride!!!
Jynelle
September 18, 2010
If the ride is still going to have people with kids, new cyclist, bike commuters etc I think it needs to be shorter or have more separate loops. Many of us bike commuters are a tad biked out for a 32+ miles ride, it really should be shorter. I don’t think the un-fun vibe last ride came from the people who were being inappropriate. They helped for sure, but so did the people being uptight and selfish, forgetting its a party etc;(not singing along…though…I digress)
All and all you get a bunch of people outside together on bikes and it should be fun. We live in a magically beautiful diverse place and naturally when we go out to party we party. I just think the people being uptight laxed up with more people they knew and could be themselves and have more fun because they felt more personally in control of the situation.
That wouldn’t work for me, I like being not in control.
My warning. The people who are there to harass will only be more encouraged by an exclusive party and bike party isn’t hard to find. I think a more sustainable solution can be found that is not trading one evil for another. Maybe an exclusive ride and a non exclusive for a few months. Than we can all see the variables more clearly and more solutions will present themselves.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Three guesses on the parts I agree with here….
‘Maybe an exclusive ride and a non exclusive for a few months.’
But yall already knew that.
No Manches
September 18, 2010
So…..plenty of DB sightings AND DB reports from residents AND BIRDS alike, but …..yeeeeaaaaahhhhh we did a good job and the secret route paid off?
Ummmmm okay.
The ride did go smoother, but c’mon….everyone should know that our rides are cyclical: we have some bad rides and then some good rides. Moreover, it depends on where your riding in the ride too. I’ve been on rides where I thought everything was great, only to find out that a lot of stuff went bad. Likewise, I’ve been on rides I thought were horrible, only to find out the majority of people said the rides went good.
Like I posted up before, the secret locations won’t solve a thing. There are a good amount of BIRDS with DB friends…and they let their DB friends know about the ride info. too. And what’s to stop a couple of DBs from infiltrating the BIRD circle and spreading out all the info?
Stan TheMan
September 18, 2010
Undercover DB masquerading as BIRDS? Those DAMN DB’s. We need to call in the FBI.
No Manches
September 18, 2010
All jokes aside….
the way some people were pissed last night….I’d really take that into consideration.
Captain (Billy the) Kid
September 18, 2010
Anyone who infiltratrates the BIRD circle will have so much fun, they won’t jeopardize their relaitonship by betraying us. Don’t believe me, No Manches? Join our test ride next Saturday.
No Manches
September 18, 2010
I’ve actually been on a couple of test rides AND I’ve been to one meeting….was a long time ago, but still….I have been to a meeting.
bag 'o douche
September 18, 2010
@ billy the kid, et al:
y’all should read your own FAQ’s sometime:
Can I come?
EVERYONE is invited. There’s no sign-up process or registration needed. Bike Party is a public and open event, and we love new people. Just be nice and follow the How We Ride rules.
Is the ride family friendly?
At Bike Party, we welcome all riders. However, the atmosphere can be diverse and chaotic, much like a rock concert. There is a large crowd, and things can get sticky at bottleneck points. There are people who act badly, as you might see at any large event like a concert at Shoreline. We strongly discourage inappropriate behavior, and through dedicated volunteers and average riders stepping up to the task, bad behavior has dramatically fallen during the Fall of 2009. Still, no one can fully control someone else’s actions. Most people are generally respectful, friendly, and helpful. The large number of bicyclists of diverse skills also adds a significant risk of bicycle-on-bicycle collisions, which happen frequently and can occasionally be seriously harmful to riders and/or bikes. All riders at San Jose Bike Party ride at their own risk. We are not riding in parks or closed tracks, and real dangers exist on our roadways that can injure or kill a bicyclist.
We strongly suggest you attend an event solo prior to bringing young children. All children under age 18 must (by law) wear a helmet, and we strongly recommend that a responsible adult accompany any children under age 16.
Help us to make the ride more family-friendly. Building community through cycling should welcome all types of people!
Jynelle
September 18, 2010
Right on!
scott
September 18, 2010
Overall a great time, some hiccups but more people stepping up. I hope people see more clearly what BIRDs are doing every single ride. Yes, we may have been more visible and our numbers have swelled after 2 months of repeated posts… but we need your help! We need the vast majority of riders to cheer the good, make more noise overall as far as vibe and shout down the DB behavior.
We need 100-150 new BIRDs of ALL riding types, ages… and definitely more women. BIRDs have a great time helping out and I’m personally hoping that we have inspired many that live by the “How We Ride” and can have fun interacting with people. There are test rides coming up.
If you can ONLY make it to the main rides, help out there vocally. Support us. But I think anyone can find 15 minutes extra, 3-4 times in a month. If you can, post you comments on facebook or here how you can help. What can you do in those 15min of time? I don’t know, but I’d like to think that you can be our virtual army. Telling others about bike party… inspire people to come… and inspire guys that want to do whatever they want (essentially pissing all over our party) that this is not cool.
We had the cooperation and assistance of the police organizations at this ride; we can not expect that at the next ride. So we really need your help in changing the culture for the better. I personally hope that this ride showed us out of the darkness that the summer months had (they always are the worst months for sjbp btw). We have some work to do, but please do what you can and take those 15min bits of time to share the “We Bike Party!” spirit
scott
September 18, 2010
great night, there were a few blemishes, but the part the bummed me out was that when cyclists see 1 1/2 lanes of traffic being blocked on a pretty dark street… with super bright ambulance and fire truck lights blasting away… that all many were talking about was how they were being inconvenienced.
after two serious accidents last month, what will it take some riders to chill out?
the fact that this was an accident w/o cars, just bikes should still be a cautionary tale. this is why sjbp keeps pushing the “how we ride” ride straight, use caution, don’t slam on your brakes… it causes a huge problem for those behind you! in this case a rider flying over his handlebars. were there other issues involved, probably. but ride better and more defensively.
i hope we don’t have to keep seeing medical personnel coming to bike party to treat our fellow riders.
http://garote.bdmonkeys.net/Bike_Party-September_2010/index2.html
Pic #24 above: ambulance lights on san antonio – treating a fallen cyclist – pic taken by (courtesy of) garrett birkel
Captain (Billy the) Kid
September 18, 2010
“ride straight, use caution, don’t slam on your brakes… it causes a huge problem for those behind you! in this case a rider flying over his handlebars. ”
Same thing happened near the end of the ride. Guy slammed on his front break and went over the handlebars. His woman told me he has been swerving around for fun, trying different stunts. Luckily, he didn’t require an ambulance. He just went home with some road rash.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
At about the 1 mile mark on DeAnza Blvd a paramedic truck and fire truck were responding to what looked like a cyclist down right as a rode by. Anybody know what happened there?
sk8dad
September 20, 2010
About the 2nd paramedic truck. Another BIRD (emt Tim?) and I did our best to block the sidewalk where the emergency crew were operating. For the most part, people understood the concept and moved back to the street. One guy however ended up having a stare down with us. WTF! All we’re asking him to do was use the street. Really? Is it that inconvenient?
Anyway, the one DB that I remember clearly from the ride consistently rode to the left of the double yellow divider and ran red lights–even after multiple urges from multiple BIRD’s and riders. He nearly caused several accidents especially one coming out of Foothill College. As if to demonstrate his utter ambivalence to the “How We Ride” philosophy, he even failed to yield the left lane after repeated siren blasts from the police. His description is as follows:
[editor's note - some of the content of this post has been deleted. we don't need to post physical descriptions of people we don't like on this forum, even if our intentions are to ward off unwarranted behavior -ryan]
At the risk of sounding Orwellian, I wonder if a database of exceptional DB’s should be compiled, and their pictures distributed at the start?
Merri
September 21, 2010
[editor's note - the content of this post has been deleted. we don't need to post physical descriptions of people we don't like on this forum, even if our intentions are to ward off unwarranted behavior -ryan]
Rider 44
September 21, 2010
Yeah, there was a guy riding near me that wouldn’t listen to BIRDs either.
Here’s what he looked like so you can add him to the database. Did you see him?
He had on a red and white striped shirt.
A black triangular hat with a skull and crossbones on it.
An eye patch.
One of his hands was a hook. (no, I’m not prejudiced against people with disabilities.)
But the weirdest thing was his left leg.
It was a wooden peg with an SPD cleat on the end of it.
When he clipped in to ride away it made the strangest sound.
And as he rode away he growled at me.
Aaaaarrrrrrrr!!
The Scurvy
September 18, 2010
First and foremost, I want to thank the Police Departments which helped out….Thank you!
Second, this ride was better organized…Kudos to the SJBP Organizers & BIRDS.
I attended the meeting in the parking lot at Sears. Very informative.
From some of the comments on here, it looks like a few DB’s were still able to find the route….if you know a DB, don’t give them current route…..send them an old route.
I knew the route, and only invited one person which I totally trust. We left the ride at the midpoint…and on the ride home, we saw a couple of groups of DB’s who had lost their way, so we pointed them in the wrong direction (hope you liked the steep climbs).
On a positive note…..The pack of riders I was riding with were very vocal about letting people know on “How We Ride”. They sent a positive message.
frisco fonzie
September 18, 2010
All I hear is complaining about mi-nute problems.. Bike party is tamed compared to mass nuff said.. thank you to all the birds who helped us constantly through out the party route. The police escort was cool too kinda made me feel at home ( as we always have a police presence at mass keeping the bull to a minimum). all the stop were great and so was the food. pirates were festive, an all around good time.. You gotta take the good with the bad and no matter what you do people participating are going to do what they want regardless. I think you guys are doing the best that you can and I for one applaud you bike party. thank you for a great night!
bag o' douche
September 18, 2010
As a member of the south bay douche bag community, I feel discriminated against.
Seriously, you guys are way into using the words, “douche bag”. it’s getting a little weird.
Stan TheMan
September 18, 2010
Which reminds me: When I as about 15 I called my mom a douche bag without knowing what it meant, cause I heard guys at school use it. Her response was humiliating: She got out the medical pictorial dictionary and showed me. Not something you want to learn from your mom. But I don’t know what this has to do with biking. Bike Partyeeeeeeeeeeeee
shennanigan9
September 18, 2010
hahaha my 13 year old daughter asked me what a douche bag is, so I basically did the same thing, and then explained how it is used as an insult. She walked away w/ more than she needed. ;P
Erik
September 18, 2010
I am glad people are having a good time, and certainly don’t want to discourage other from enjoying the bike party, but I ask those of you reading this to remember to be considerate.
I encountered the bike party while on my way to work in Los Altos. While on San Antonio Road, there were two lanes available. It would have been appreciated if riders could have kept one lane of traffic open to motor vehicles. This was not done, and certainly did not seem in line with the bike party’s mission of fostering community.
I was able to detour around that mess, but re-encountered the bike party on El Camino Real. There were very many bicyclists who, though I was considerate, would not let me into the lane though I had my turn signal on. This presented a hazard as I had to obstruct one lane of El Camino, and caused a significant slowing of traffic.
If you wish to build community and promote your rights as bicyclists, I encourage all participants in the bike party to remember the old adage “You attract more bees with honey.” Being a partner in the community, being responsive and respectful, and sharing the road will find you much more support than regarding motorists and the residents of the communities you pass through as adversaries.
I realize the volunteers and organizers of this event cannot police everyone, but each rider has the power to demonstrate to others around them how to act responsibly. Last night was my first encounter with the bike party, and I did not see a demonstration of responsibility and community: I saw what acted like a group of thugs on bicycles.
I understand and support the ideas behind the bike party, but you have a long way to go to achieve those ideals.
Rider 44
September 18, 2010
Eric,
Well said. Be sure to see Spliffer’s comment below. I too helped get several cars un-stuck last night. The really cool thing I found was the ability to work together with total strangers to get the goal accomplished. It seemed that when one of us started shouting instructions out, two or three of us were just instantly in sync, blocking, directing, accomplishing. Having several helpers with understanding of what simple tasks needed to be accomplished definitely made it possible. And then we all rode on as if nothing special had happened.
alex
September 18, 2010
i pereonally did not like the idea of notreleasing the route.
Spliffer
September 18, 2010
@Erik
I am sorry you got caught up in the throng of bicyclists.
Everything you said is true.
I witnessed your situation and tried to help and couldn’t get any cooperation from my bicycling brethren.
Your situation was my only unsuccessful attempt of the night.
I was successful in assisting several cars caught in similar situations last night and received enthusiastic thank-yous from the affected motorists.
Yours was my only “embarrassing failure” of the night and that’s why we are reading about it today.
I can’t rationally explain why, mostly, decent bicyclists didn’t give you a break other than to conclude that you fell victim to “behavior contagion”.
Come join us on our next test ride and experience the quality… the cool folks behind this awesome movement of bike people.
-PEACE!
Jim
September 18, 2010
The ride was alright, still a bunch of DB hipocrits.
Tanner BIRD/ balding
tanner
September 18, 2010
:] I even wore a hat this time.
Joe Fixie
September 18, 2010
Awesome ride, this was my second bike party and it was better then the first one I cant wait till next month…on the other hand for people smoking mary jane please take it out side this event there are kids riding too and thats not kool……..if you have to do it do it before or after…how do you explain to kids what that smell is during the ride? feel me?
Rider 44
September 19, 2010
Hi Joe,
I had my 8 year old daughter with me last night. My 4th BP, her 1st, though we did a test ride together earlier this month. I guess that means she’s only one ride away from becoming a bird! Youngest? IDK.
She didn’t ask me about that smell but, funny you should mention how to explain to kids, she did comment on all the cigarette smokers she saw. So we talked about smoking for the next mile or so. I like the opportunities we have on the tandem to discuss whatever she wants to talk about. So not to worry, it works out ok.
The first time she rode Critical Mass with me in SF I talked to her ahead of time and mentioned there would be naked men riding bikes with no clothes on and to please not look that way. It worked fine, she didn’t. We’ve even had some months on Critical Mass when they were right by us for several blocks before I could ride ahead or drop back sufficiently. So far it’s worked out ok.
One thing I think is interesting is when people use profanity, then someone riding near them looks over and sees a little girl. Suddenly you hear people telling them to watch their language, there are children present… So I guess you could say, in her own way, Evelyn is doing her part to make a difference and help clean up Bike Party.
Oops, that got long. Thanks for your concern about children. I just wanted to give you one father’s opinion on what their children see/hear/smell on BP.
And thanks for teaching me a new term. I’m old and had never heard ‘feel me’ (google urban dictionary to the rescue). So hopefully now you feel me too. (though I can’t say that without thinking about Tommy by the Who…)
Ian
September 19, 2010
my daughter is 7 and we’ve been riding with BP for over a year

BP with kids is where it’s at.
she doesn’t make it every time but she does have a bird patch
and in aug when i had the 3 year old he was yelling at people to get in the right lane
ryan
September 20, 2010
epic.
Captain (Billy the) Kid
September 19, 2010
If you’re trying to manipulate your chidren by keeping them ignorant, you get no sympathy from me. Educate them well and they’ll make wise choices.
I still have psychological scars from my childhood when I asked my dad what “necking” meant, and he told me it just meant hanging out together, leading me to make an ass of myself telling people I’d been necking with my friend. Thanks, Dad!
Seriously, all you parents who lie to your children or keep them ignorant in hopes of manipulating them, bite me!
Ian
September 19, 2010
LOL… i can only imagine what that would do the a preteen …
sorry for laughing but thats a great story..
shen
September 18, 2010
We did it! We finally finished a full ride with no bike problems, and what a great route!
Thank you SJBP friends, birds, and organizers. We’ve attempted a couple rides before this, and aside from the ladies ride, this is one we FINALLY completed. All the riders (the ones surrounding us, at least) were very vocal with “stay to the right”, “right lane party”, “red light party”… It was great!
The police presence although at times seemed unnecessarily aggressive was good too.
I posted up some videos on my tube playlist.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=14568440E16F744F
They were taken with my Flip, so excuse the quality.
Can’t wait until next month!
Thanks again!
shennanigan9
September 18, 2010
oops! sorry wrong link..
Here’s A video from the ride…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRVmZSIUgTs
The other videos will be easy to find from there.
Ride Safe Guys til next month! Bike Paaartay!
meowz
September 18, 2010
Sadly, I was not able to make it to the ride on Friday! ):
I’m just wondering, is this going to be an on-going thing? Keeping the route a secret, or was it done to fit into the theme of the ride this month?
I’m so sad I missed it! ): But I’m glad to hear that things got better this month! (: Love to hear positive things like that!
Captain (Billy the) Kid
September 19, 2010
The future is uncertain. But anyone can become a BIRD, and if you do, you’ll have the route for every ride.
Meowwz
September 19, 2010
woops! I did not see that reply! I just posted another one!
Well, hopefully I have time to go and sit in on one of these meetings, you know being a high school senior and all, the first semester’s pretty busy! ):
Hopefully I’ll be able to make it!