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		<title>By: Rider 44</title>
		<link>http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/2739/comment-page-1#comment-3583</link>
		<dc:creator>Rider 44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An idea I just had to better handle bottlenecks.

At points on the route that will obviously become bottlenecks, have alternate routes.  That way, as the group approaches, if the group sees that going one way is total gridlock, they can know about the alternate way.

For example, in the August 2010 ride we had bottlenecks leaving city hall and in the neighborhood before the first regroup.
At the neighborhood bottleneck the bypass could have been U-turn on Zanker, continue on River Oaks, right on 1st.  
When leaving city hall we could have easily designated both 5th and 3rd (and maybe even 6th) as alternate routes until everybody got to Taylor.

Looking at the July 2010 route it seems that a decent alternate could have been Lafayette, Market, the Alameda.

I know that starting points won&#039;t always have several alternate routes, but it&#039;s something to think about until the group gets spread out.  

Also, I know that the neighborhood bottleneck was exacerbated by the unauthorized regroup, but considering the street width issues, it hardly seems completely unexpected considering we just got off of several four lane divided long block roads.

Thanks all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idea I just had to better handle bottlenecks.</p>
<p>At points on the route that will obviously become bottlenecks, have alternate routes.  That way, as the group approaches, if the group sees that going one way is total gridlock, they can know about the alternate way.</p>
<p>For example, in the August 2010 ride we had bottlenecks leaving city hall and in the neighborhood before the first regroup.<br />
At the neighborhood bottleneck the bypass could have been U-turn on Zanker, continue on River Oaks, right on 1st.<br />
When leaving city hall we could have easily designated both 5th and 3rd (and maybe even 6th) as alternate routes until everybody got to Taylor.</p>
<p>Looking at the July 2010 route it seems that a decent alternate could have been Lafayette, Market, the Alameda.</p>
<p>I know that starting points won&#8217;t always have several alternate routes, but it&#8217;s something to think about until the group gets spread out.  </p>
<p>Also, I know that the neighborhood bottleneck was exacerbated by the unauthorized regroup, but considering the street width issues, it hardly seems completely unexpected considering we just got off of several four lane divided long block roads.</p>
<p>Thanks all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sudo Nim</title>
		<link>http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/2739/comment-page-1#comment-3136</link>
		<dc:creator>Sudo Nim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 07:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow CAT! ... well said, &quot;Every individual owns the world, or at least the part of it where their shadow falls. Even at night you cast a shadow in a way with your voice and your glances, that part of the surface of the earth where you dwell is always your responsibility.&quot; .. YUP tht was good. 

@Ian ~&gt; lol @ Goodbye zog

@Zog.... U will live in their Utopian world! The public is on the ride. the public is outside cheering us on from the side walk. SJBP has changed San Jose and San Jose likes it. The SJBP has made great strides in creating the most positive movement. Try to name one that didnt have the occasional heathens, you nay sayer! The Birds have had subtle triumphs in handling the misrepresentations.  Statistically! If you have 1000 ppl, which in June they had 3000, 50 Ppl out of 1000 is 5 percent. Were there more than that? If not, Sudo say thats successful. Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow CAT! &#8230; well said, &#8220;Every individual owns the world, or at least the part of it where their shadow falls. Even at night you cast a shadow in a way with your voice and your glances, that part of the surface of the earth where you dwell is always your responsibility.&#8221; .. YUP tht was good. </p>
<p>@Ian ~&gt; lol @ Goodbye zog</p>
<p>@Zog&#8230;. U will live in their Utopian world! The public is on the ride. the public is outside cheering us on from the side walk. SJBP has changed San Jose and San Jose likes it. The SJBP has made great strides in creating the most positive movement. Try to name one that didnt have the occasional heathens, you nay sayer! The Birds have had subtle triumphs in handling the misrepresentations.  Statistically! If you have 1000 ppl, which in June they had 3000, 50 Ppl out of 1000 is 5 percent. Were there more than that? If not, Sudo say thats successful. Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sudo Nim</title>
		<link>http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/2739/comment-page-1#comment-3134</link>
		<dc:creator>Sudo Nim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fireworks where a spark of livelihood! Weary riders were fueled by its catalytic energy. The ground fireworks illuminated the concrete as riders performed tricks through the light ... True classic SJ. Im not condoning though. :P

since you cant control 100% of anything even in dictatorship. I ask ,,, 
If only they could limit the amount and not set off so many to bring unwanted attention. Use it to set the crowd &#039;hype&#039; NOT do a light show. Use discretion in your actions and realize that people put in hard work for Bike Party to come alive. Respect the Ride!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fireworks where a spark of livelihood! Weary riders were fueled by its catalytic energy. The ground fireworks illuminated the concrete as riders performed tricks through the light &#8230; True classic SJ. Im not condoning though. <img src='http://www.sjbikeparty.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>since you cant control 100% of anything even in dictatorship. I ask ,,,<br />
If only they could limit the amount and not set off so many to bring unwanted attention. Use it to set the crowd &#8216;hype&#8217; NOT do a light show. Use discretion in your actions and realize that people put in hard work for Bike Party to come alive. Respect the Ride!</p>
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		<title>By: the cat</title>
		<link>http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/2739/comment-page-1#comment-3108</link>
		<dc:creator>the cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should continue to come if only to police the activity a little better.

Seriously, who do you suppose is doing that out there on the road? The cops? The mayor? Your mom?

Every individual owns the world, or at least the part of it where their shadow falls. Even at night you cast a shadow in a way with your voice and your glances, that part of the surface of the earth where you dwell is always your responsibility. Deal with it. Or go back to live in your Dad&#039;s basement. Adult life means dealing with a lot of crap. Sucks, but that&#039;s what you signed up for when you agreed to be born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should continue to come if only to police the activity a little better.</p>
<p>Seriously, who do you suppose is doing that out there on the road? The cops? The mayor? Your mom?</p>
<p>Every individual owns the world, or at least the part of it where their shadow falls. Even at night you cast a shadow in a way with your voice and your glances, that part of the surface of the earth where you dwell is always your responsibility. Deal with it. Or go back to live in your Dad&#8217;s basement. Adult life means dealing with a lot of crap. Sucks, but that&#8217;s what you signed up for when you agreed to be born.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodbye zog...
I&#039;d say we will miss you but i don&#039;t know who you are i guess you never volunteered... :(
it&#039;s too bad you couldn&#039;t stay and help us deal with the jerks...
as they say if your not part of the solution your part of the precipitate... err problem...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye zog&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;d say we will miss you but i don&#8217;t know who you are i guess you never volunteered&#8230; <img src='http://www.sjbikeparty.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
it&#8217;s too bad you couldn&#8217;t stay and help us deal with the jerks&#8230;<br />
as they say if your not part of the solution your part of the precipitate&#8230; err problem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zog</title>
		<link>http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/2739/comment-page-1#comment-3106</link>
		<dc:creator>Zog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bike Party Organizers are living in a Fantasy World!

I quit going on rides, will not participate, nor will I bring any of my friends. I&#039;ve had enough! It&#039;s a sad day : (

You are loosing the base which made bike party great, and will do nothing to police the unruly. Quote: &quot;thru peer pressure we can make the jerks leave&quot; written by who ever &quot;Testrides&quot; is? The jerks are not listening to you, or anyone else.

SJBP Organizers...You can live in your Utopian World (where everything will fix it&#039;s self)...but when the public has had enough, and passes resolutions to keep gatherings to small numbers...then you will wish you had policed your activities a little better.

Good luck to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bike Party Organizers are living in a Fantasy World!</p>
<p>I quit going on rides, will not participate, nor will I bring any of my friends. I&#8217;ve had enough! It&#8217;s a sad day : (</p>
<p>You are loosing the base which made bike party great, and will do nothing to police the unruly. Quote: &#8220;thru peer pressure we can make the jerks leave&#8221; written by who ever &#8220;Testrides&#8221; is? The jerks are not listening to you, or anyone else.</p>
<p>SJBP Organizers&#8230;You can live in your Utopian World (where everything will fix it&#8217;s self)&#8230;but when the public has had enough, and passes resolutions to keep gatherings to small numbers&#8230;then you will wish you had policed your activities a little better.</p>
<p>Good luck to you!</p>
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