Another ride has come and gone, and while the past few months have brought us nothing but great riding and a positive response from the community, July’s Deity Ride has solicited mixed feelings from both riders and non-riders alike. This post will highlight some of the amazing things from the ride while reflecting what immediate needs we must address if we are to carry out our mission of community building.
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Highlights from the ride:
- For starters, we had an awesome route, once again taking the ride where we’ve never been before. Saratoga was a blast, and for many riders, the best part was the long downhill stretch on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Riding through the Rose Garden neighborhood was also a great way to explore a historic part of the San Jose, with the Egyptian Museum setting the tone for our Deity theme early in evening.
- Our growth continues, last night attracting well over 3,000 riders (counted along the Alameda), with the estimate sitting at 3,300. For those unfamiliar with Bike Party’s beginnings, the first ride was only 25 people and no one every thought it would explode in mass the way it has.
- We’re also still doing well with red lights. While there are specific incidents where people didn’t stop, these were few in number and usually involved riders entering the intersection just as the light turned red, not continuing through the cycle or purposely blocking traffic. Given the enormous size of the ride and the energy it carries with it, I am personally amazed at how well we’ve done with traffic lights over the past several months.
Areas for improvement:
- Bike Party has done really well at sharing the road with motorized traffic, until last night. Bike Party does not exist to take over the road. Bike Party exists to build community within our legal right to the roadway. When we don’t share the road we are sending a poor message to everyone – residents, police, politicians, even each other. The right lane is ours, and in that sense we are ‘reclaiming the streets,’ but our goal is to promote a bike friendly community and garner the respect we deserve while using the road – not just during Bike Party, but every other day of the month. Please share the roads encourage others to do the same.
- Respecting others’ rights on the road. This has much to do with sharing the road, but it extends further than that. Many drivers who cross paths with us or end up engulfed in our ride find ways to cope with it. Some engage in conversation with us, trying to figure out what we are, why we’re riding and so forth. Others join the festivities, cheering us on and shouting Bike Party. Others look baffled and try to find the quickest way out of our mass. In any case, it’s our duty to respect the rights of others and to remember that most people in cars have no idea what’s going on and might even feel a little intimidated. The best thing we can do is be friendly and courteous and stay on our side of the road, and help a ‘trapped car’ find their way out.
What we need YOU to do:
- If you’re reading this post, it’s likely that you’re familiar with How We Ride. We need your help along the route. We know you can do it. You’ve got the energy and lung capacity to yell Bike Party! every 30 seconds, so why not step it up and shout ‘move to your right’ when you know we’re blocking the road. It’s surprisingly effective, especially when it’s more than one person doing it. For several months now, this has happened along the ride, simple reminders to share the road and obey traffic rules. For whatever reason, this did not occur last night to the extent it normally does. Maybe there were a lot of new riders who were unfamiliar with How We Ride. It’s impossible to know for sure. We need you to step it up next month. This is your ride. OWN IT!
- Volunteer. There are so many ways to help out. The more volunteers, the better the ride. Anyone who rode on December’s scarf ride, last year’s anniversary ride, or the Stanford ride knows what I’m taking about. Please join us on a test ride or at our monthly volunteer meeting. How do you find out about these? Check the website often and become a fan of our Facebook page
- Spread the word. And make sure you tell people to read How We Ride and get lights while you’re at it!
There has been concern from the Bike Party and non-Bike Party community about the poor timing of our start location for this month. This is something that I feel obliged to address. The dedicated volunteers who help with route decisions make painful efforts to ensure our ride will flow as smoothly as possible and try to take every possible circumstance into account. But we’re not always perfect and unforeseen circumstances do exist, as unfortunate as that may be. For the record, the blaring horns coming from Benton Avenue belonged to a pair of semi trucks who stopped to cheer on the ride. Their intention was in the spirit of celebration, not to ruin anyone’s evening. That goes for us, too.
Action item: Many of you may not be aware that San Jose International Airport recently went through a massive renovation and that this includes signs banning bikes from the airport roads – public airport roads! While Bike Party exists as a fun event for people to socialize while riding bikes, it also exists to bring awareness to bicycle issues in the South Bay at large. We want to achieve a bike-friendly, sustainable community where bikes our respected as a legitimate mode of transportation, and public roads must respect our right to use them. Please sign Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition’s petition to have these signs removed. (click here for petition).
The coming months will bring even more riders and even better weather. As always, please share your thoughts and stories in the comments section and post your photos on our Flickr page.
Bike Party!
















Avid cyclist - but missed the point entirely
July 17, 2010
I ride MTB & road, spend some time with ROMP – but don’t get it. I also live in Saratoga and here is how saw the ride. Noisy, reckless disregard for traffic laws, and complete disrespect for the neighbourhoods you rode through. First prize goes to the juvenile who pissed on my letter box. Add that to the whole funeral thing and I have to wonder what the point was.
As an avid cyclist and sometime MTB activist I can only say that events like this are what give cyclists such bad press.
MG
D. Rod
July 17, 2010
I had such an awesome time last night!! Sooo much fun! It’s too bad there is so much negativity on here from the public. But like others said… We pass by a neighbor hood maybe once in a long, long time. So get over it people.
[mod/tr: most of the anger is (i suspect) targeted from the legal riders towards the riders doing illegal and stupid things]
testrides
July 17, 2010
From the How We Ride:
http://www.sjbikeparty.org/how-we-ride
If you follow these eight rules, Bike Party will be safe and a positive place for riders, drivers, pedestrians, and the community
1. Stay in the right lane when possible. NEVER ride the sidewalk. NEVER ride against oncoming traffic.
2. Pick up your trash, leave nothing behind.
3. Stop at red lights.
4. Ride straight, ride predictability.
5. Roll past conflict.
6. Leave no one behind.
7. Ride sober! It’s illegal and dangerous to ride a bicycle inebriated.
8. Communicate to fellow riders! (We need your help to remind those who aren’t following the rules!)
-RB
July 17, 2010
An idea: Turn Birds into “cone” sentries. Yes, cones. Something like 100 riding sentries as rotating cones like on the GG Bridge. Station them out a few blocks or so. As the last riders pass they join in to re-station at the start of the line. Possibly you’ll keep riders in the right lane and oversee that stop lights/signs are not ignored. More vigilance is needed, especially in the last half of the group.
As of now, you have totally lost quality control of this ride. Without controls and firm leadership, this ride is about to come to an end. I’ve ridden it twice. I’m an experienced rider who commutes and rides recreationally about 4000 miles annually. From what I’ve experienced so far on SJBP, I’m not impressed at all with what you think you are doing. At this point I will not attend it again. In fact, if you rode by my house I would definitely call the police to report a disturbing nuisance in my neighborhood.
Tyler
July 17, 2010
Negatives, and negatives. Like everyone else, I believe we should improve on stopping at redlights, though only a couple of idiots ruin the fun for us, while the majority of the bike partiers stop at red. Funeral occurring at the same time as BP? Ouch…. sorry about that. I don’t know if we knew about it early enough, but it’s a bad coincidence. Call it our fault, but I did not even know of a funeral afternoon until this afternoon. Maybe if we were notified early enough, then we could have changed the starting point. But like what bike turtle said, it would have been hard to do. Most residents cheered us on throughout the ride, but it seems some were upset. We probably won’t go through your neighborhood for a while…. And much as I enjoy my freedom in the left lane, I feel that we can improve on only taking up the right lane. I truly appreciate the beauty of this ride, but we also have to work on the negatives and improve that. I’d really HATE to see BP shut down. I think we would all hate that, right?
Abbie & Larry
July 17, 2010
For a test ride with only about 50 people in attendance, it was so great to have a huge crowd riding with us last night. Kudos to the SJ Party organizers for making this another successful ride.
As successful as it may be, it was also the rudest & scariest bike party we’ve attended (we’ve been joining SJ Bike Parties for the 5th consecutive time). A lot of bikers are getting ruder & ruder with total disregard to traffic rules, motorists and most especially their co-bikers. Our group encountered some irresponsible bikers who drink alcohol and throw their empty cans & bottles in the middle of the road which are very dangerous since the route is not as well-lit as the previous routes were. I was personally thrown off my bike by somebody who was trying to sneak through our group with lightning speed. The sad part was, he ran off as fast as he could without checking how many people were involved in this accident. A total SOB. We’ve seen several pile ups in a matter of an hour, maybe because most of the bikes don’t have lights to warn the other bikers of their presence. So far the nastiest and most brutal bike party we’ve experienced. Now these could be some of the reasons why the city is trying to ban us from continuing to hold bike parties. It’s so sad that a handful of tyrants ruin the reputation & hard work this organization have built.
I commend all the other responsible bikers who followed traffic rules, shared the road with motorists and co-bikers.
Looking forward to more disciplined bike rides!!
scott
July 17, 2010
great ride, route, great vibe overall and most people were great as they always are. but we have too many people that don’t know how to step up and even more that don’t know how to ride in groups. these people simply need to be educated.
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@tyler – i wish you are right cuz i love bike party, but the problem is far bigger than that. ignore the funeral issue… it’s a canard thrown up by only one person here (the others are piling on)
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all that read these posts at least care about bike party. the real issue is more like 100-300 riders on this ride being absolutely reckless, knowing it and not giving a damn about it. you won’t find them reading these posts.
the jerks reckless contribution to bike party was:
riding in oncoming lanes consistently
running red lights
weaving inbetween riders
weaving between cars
literally doing anything they wanted no matter what BIRDs said
there was not enough people backing the BIRDs up so these jerks didn’t feel any/enough pressure to back off.
there were other issues that weren’t great, but are more easily fixed, cuz most probably didn’t know any better:
another 50-100 fearful and riding on sidewalks.
another 200-300 that couldn’t keep a straight line to save their lives
another 1000-1500 that were in the left lane of the 2-lane roads,etc.
(gross ballpark figures for representation/scale of the issue among 3300 riders, but probably reasonably close)
solutions?
we need 2-3x as many BIRDs…. 20-50x as many riders to back up the BIRDs.
becoming a volunteer is easy and it can be creatively fun to make fun of these immature selfish riders.
we need volunteers on ALL types of bikes of ALL ages and ALL riding speeds and styles.
we need PEER based policing/shaming/rewarding/etc
thank you
@tyler
July 17, 2010
I think that depends on which BP you’re talking about.
LOST PARTYYYY!
July 17, 2010
@ #43 spliffer
Tehe, thanks budd. It’s good to know that i’m able to do so.
testrides
July 18, 2010
regroup #3 at el paseo – what happened and why? thanks billy. anyone else have some perspective on this? seems like a drastic step!
biketurtle
July 18, 2010
I started riding with SJBP about a year ago. Dusted off my old 10-speed (note: that literally means 2×5, not the fancy 10-speed freewheels of today) and struggled through the 25 mile ride. Before that ride, I hadn’t used the bicycle more than about once or twice a year. Since that ride, I get on the bicycle nearly every weekend. I sometimes commute to work by bicycle, which never happened before, and I frequently run errands to the library or the local stores by bicycle instead of using my car. I now finish SJBP rides wanting to ride more, and I set a lifetime personal best distance at the April Bike the Limits ride (for some reason, I still haven’t lost any weight, but that’s a different problem). I rediscovered the love of cycling that I had before I had my first car.
Why did I start volunteering for SJBP? I thought I could make a difference. I always stop at red (and yellow) lights and exhort at my fellow riders to do the same. I stay behind to pick up trash at regroups. I yell at people who aren’t following the rules of the road. I make an effort to help trapped cars get free. I call out road and traffic hazards.
But even beyond that, I teach safe riding techniques, such as the proper path to make a left turn, and the importance of getting out of a right-turn lane when you’re planning to go straight. I stop bicyclists who mistakenly try and pass right-turning cars on the right (even with a bike lane, this is dangerous), and I hold up riders so that the cars can get by. For the most part, I’ve seen favorable results. Most of our riders respond positively when I ask them to create a break to let a car through, or when I come around with a trash bag. Many are learning the nuances of properly riding in traffic.
I’m not the only one doing this, but there are too few. If you ride with us, please help! I was shy about speaking out a first, but I’ve discovered that it really does make a difference for most riders.
I think many of the volunteers share the frustrations being echoed by drivers about the rude behavior of some of the riders. You can see this from some of the comments on this board. There is a small percentage of riders who deliberately cause trouble. My yelling is just a waste of effort in those cases. If I could kick them off the ride, I would. But the reality is that I have no more authority over them than I do over car drivers who tailgate, run red lights, roll though stop signs, or drive while intoxicated. The PEER based “policing” helps, but I fear there is a certain group that is beyond hope.
Will those riders mean the end of SJBP? That remains to be seen. While I really abhor seeing the scofflaws on our rides, I wonder what they would be doing if they weren’t out with us. Drinking and driving? Joining street gangs? (admittedly, I am reaching to find a bright side to this).
As long as I feel I’m making a postive difference, I’ll continue to volunteer my time. While I really enjoy participating in the rides, from a selfish point of view, I don’t “need” them so much anymore. I’m back on my bicycle, and intend to stay on it this time. I will be forever grateful to SJBP for getting me riding again, and I can only hope that others have had the same experience. I love seeing the variety of people that attend these rides, and I enjoy making friends with people that I would otherwise have been unlikely to ever strike up a conversation with. Those are the things that keep me going.
phylis
July 18, 2010
when there’s a crash or somebody takes a accidental spill, have some respect for the injured and refrain from cheering like an idiot. many of the brohs feel it’s necessary to start whooping and hollering when people crash. it’s all fun and games until it happens to you
testrides
July 18, 2010
Big shout out to all that take pictures and post to the Flicker account, to blogs,etc. More pics and videos please!!
Extra shout out to those that express what’s going on behind the pics and videos too.
This is Richard Masoner of cyclelicio.us/
his words:
Rapid Robert
July 18, 2010
This was another great ride, despite the issues described above. The route was easy to follow, the regroup locations excellent, and the downhill from Saratoga took the cake! The fireworks were excellent (c’mon, where’s the danger in that beyond any aggressive Independence Day celebration?).
Too bad about the funeral. I live in the Newhall Neighborhood and tolerate the noise from SCU sporting events ALL THE TIME. And San Jose is building two more enormous stadiums within easy earshot of my home. I have vuvulella, drums and light trespass to live with in my future. Not to mention the idiotic High Speed Rail they want to build through the center of the city on elevated tracks FIVE STORIES HIGH! SCU events REGULARLY disturb the peace in my neighborhood. I hope the city leaders present at the funeral come away from it with a heightened awareness of noise pollution.
I agree that there should be a requirement to agree with the rules of the ride before getting a map, if only symbolic. Symbols count. Same as raising your right hand before testifying in court.
The only way to minimize the red light runners and salmon is to have the police pace the ride. Police on motorcycles are the only solution, and why not? The only alternative is for ALL those who respect the way we ride to boo and curse those who don’t. Those first at a red light can wait a bit sideways to cork it. Make it personal.
The San Jose Bike Party is composed of those who respect the way we ride, and join us on our route. Salmon and red light runners are PARTY CRASHERS. Keeping in our lane and respecting those red lights is what gives us the right and moral authority TO KEEP THE RIDE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. If the public riding with us don’t support our request for their participation in “self policing” the idiots crashing the party, why should they be invited?
nick
July 18, 2010
This being my 3rd BP, I had a BLAST!!!
Just like others above I had a few things that irked me…
Law breakers, your days are numbered. And what I mean by that is it’s only a matter of time until Karma catches up with you, and you get plowed over and become one with the asphalt. When you break traffic laws, you’re ultimately ruining BP for everyone. Not smart having 3000+ people pissed off at you.
I LOVE fireworks, and am all for fireworks displays thoughout the year for any occasion. However, I am not for them when they are not used safely. So for the guy who was standing on the corner of Winchester and Payne who threw firecrackers at me as I rode by, thanks a lot douchebag!! I followed the rules of BP and rolled past conflict, but I remember what you look like, and if I ever see you again, prepare to get dropped. You’re an idiot.
As for the 85% of you that follow the laws and are still able to have a great time doing so, and the guys with music trailers, THANK YOU!!
For the BP organizers and BIRDS, THANK YOU x 1000!!!!! You guys rock!!
BIKE PARTTAAAYYY!!!!
Anarchy on wheels
July 18, 2010
There definitely were more people breaking the rules on this ride. Taking too many lanes, wrong side of the road, red lights, hella drunk people.. and so on. But I had more fun than ever, this being my 4th ride in the past 2 years.
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biketurtle
July 18, 2010
RB, as a volunteer, I appreciate your comment and suggestion. Not to single you out, but your post highlights some of the challenges. For one, I don’t think we have 100 volunteers. Furthermore, we’re not going to get 100 volunteers if people don’t see SJBP as *our* ride, collectively.
SJBP isn’t like most events, with a well-funded centrally organized group leading the way. From what I understand, it started with a relatively small group of riders who invited others to join them. If participants look at the issues on the ride as someone else’s problem to solve, there’s not much hope, and I may be joining you on the sidelines.
the cat
July 18, 2010
I enjoyed the ride. I had my family out for the first time — wife and two kids — and the kids did great and wife enjoyed it.
I was approached in the parking of the first re-group at the church (I guess I looked official) he was some kind of manager there and start in about the insurance, etc. I told him I would pass on the word, so the word is not to use the church parking lot next time. There.
I don’t think 3000 riders is a good thing, because I don’t think there are 3000 conscientious riders in SJ. There, I said it, flame away. The best rides do seem smaller.
I’ve been noticing that the down-hill sections are potential disasters. People who can barely ride on flat surfaces find the downhills, think they are Lance Armstrong, and race into a crash. Guys on fixies go by yelling “I don’t have breaks” as if that were a good thing. I don’t know how to avoid this, maybe it’s just part of the learning process for these noobs. Except that they always take out someone who’s managing better, and that’s criminal. I had a screw-ball weaving through dense bike traffic around and then ahead of me, brushed shoulders with a big guy who was just riding straight, and they both went down in a snarl right in front of me. Drunk or drugged or just a stupid fucker doesn’t matter. Downhills encourage this crap. Leave them off, I say.
So that’s what I had to say. My family females and young son may do the Ladies Ride — we did the test ride — I think that’s a better bunch. Hey, maybe they should all be Ladies Rides. I’m down with that. San Jose Ladies Bike Party, has a nice ring. More fun, fewer senseless fuckers, better vibe. I’m down with that.
the cat
R
July 18, 2010
I had a great ride for this being my first ride. But I am glad I ended when and where I did.
I almost got pushed into a moving car due to people not riding straight, and partially my fault for being in the wrong lane. Everyone should have LIGHTS and BRAKES on their bikes. I love fireworks, but don’t give authorities reason to stop SJ Bike Party. I plan on going on more rides with Bike Party. For those of you that just go out and ride and are just here to read what people are saying.
Read this instead and Follow these rules to keep having safe riding and safe fun.
http://www.sjbikeparty.org/how-we-ride
and
http://www.sjbikeparty.org/law-for-bikes
There are RULES and LAWS.
I know they are not always fun to follow and obey and we all break rules weather we like it or know it. But is it really going to ruin your evening staying safe with a gang of people?
I think not.
Please keep this going. BIKE PARTY FOREVER!!!
the cat
July 18, 2010
It’s probably discouraging to think that SJBP rides might end due to abusive riders. If the surrounding community thinks this mass event is disruptive, then it should probably end. Nor would it be the first time that a handful of people ruined something that was doing a lot of good; it’s part of their mental illness to pull the wings off butterflies.
But something like BP will be restarted eventually, under different rules or different circumstance, because there will always be a different handful of people who want it.
It is the cycle of creation and destruction. For 5 million years we have evolved on the wheel of creation and destruction and for the most part it’s been a good thing. So I recommend that everyone just enjoy the rides, do something to make peace with destruction, and if it has to die to save it then let it die.
Starting over has its own rewards; like a new blossom, you emerge into the world clean and full of hope and you are allowed the expectation that it will be good.
the cat
Kat
July 18, 2010
I did not like the fireworks, I almost got burned by some of the sparks coming down. Why do you need fireworks at a bike party, we’re good with what we have.
I also didn’t like the drunk bikers, have some common sense, why the hell would you ride a bike drunk and brag about it? I had about 3 bikers come up to me and tell me how drunk they were.
But besides that i thought this was fun, going downhill and jammin’ to the music was the best part.
Big Gay Mike
July 18, 2010
I won’t rehash what everyone has already said I agree with most of it. For me this ride never ‘spread’ out till we left the final meet up at REI. That was a new experience, usually I only am in big clusters of folks leaving meetups. I was in dense packs most of the night. Here’s my gripe – people stopping in the middle of the pack. Maybe they dropped something, or they decided to wait for friends and some were making phone calls. To the guy who stopped directly in front of me and I creamed him as I came by – sorry dude. I didn’t do it on purpose. You gave me ZERO warning. I didn’t knock you down or hit your bike, so I didn’t stop, it wasn’t safe to do so. I did yell sorry and also told you not to stop in the middle of the pack. If you are sore – its your own fault. I had no choice but to hit you. I could have taken out a dad and little kid to my left or knocked a girl on a cruiser to my right OR I could have come to a stop and had someone run into me from behind. It was STUPID of you to stop in the middle of the road, in the middle of the pack. It looks like you were making a phone call on your cell and getting out a fresh beer.
Folks if you have to stop – ride to the side – even if you drop something, ride to the side get out of traffic and walk back on the sidewalk to retrieve your item when there is a break in traffic, be it cars or bikes. Same thing goes for making calls, waiting for friends etc. GET OUT of the pack.
Community Activitist
July 18, 2010
Before this thread gets too depressing I suggest we all take a step back. First, San Jose PD is not shutting for SJBP. Moreover, I’ve been talking to County administrators to make sure no laws are being passed that will ban SJBP (don’t worry – its unconstitutional). Second, it is just a few kids causing problems – something we adults should be able to handle.
Thus a few ideas you might want to think about:
1/ Shorten the ride during the summer months when there are a lot of kids. Perhaps a 2 hour 15 mile will help reduce problems with lots of twists & turns to challenge everyone’s map skills.
2/ Recruit volunteers right before the ride. I say this as it is difficult for many people to go to the volunteer meeting (like me). But asking people to show up 30 minutes early to man stops & turns is easier (i.e. they’re there anyway).
3/ And the most radical idea for last – ask San Jose PD if they’re willing to send a bicycle-mounted officer to help remind kids what the “red light” means. Even if SJPD doesn’t assign anyone, at least they will recognize that SJBP is trying to partner with them.
I’ll look forward to any feedback from the group.
Spliffer
July 18, 2010
Noooo!
Bike Party can’t die.
It is the best thing that ever happened to San Jose and the Bay Area.
We need to isolate the “anarchists” from the core law abiding Bike Party folks.
Let’s just face it, we will never shake the anarchists from our midst, so we need to be clever in diminishing their influence within our ranks.
The main problem is that some of the newbies, inexperienced and impressionable riders get caught up in aping those idiots.
This is where Birds just get drained — not from the anarchists — but, from the ripple effect of some riders who get infected — deciding incorrectly — that it’s “kool” to follow “moronic behavior” — even to point of risking their own lives.
I think if we can work on reducing the snow-balling effect of bad behavior, the “anarchist effect” can be significantly reduced.
We can’t stop them; but we need focus on minimizing their influence.
We have to out-think, outwit and out-smart those who infiltrate this awesome movement of bike-people to push their anti-law and order agenda.
Bike Party forever!
Britton
July 18, 2010
We need more volunteers.
I’m a little BIRD. Well, maybe more of a BIRDlet. For a long stretch of the ride I was the only BIRDlet around, and even during those parts where I was joined by other BIRDS, we were maybe 2 or 3 voices trying to direct hundreds of people at a time. The BIRD to non-BIRD ratio during these summer rides is probably around 1:100, maybe even less. The BIRD to scofflaw (or as Scott had dubbed, CAT) ratio is something like 1:10
If you’re a rider and you want things to improve, volunteer. This *doesn’t* have to mean going to the volunteer meeting, doing the pre-ride volunteer circle, and doing all of that. It could be doing little things like:
-Checking the website the night before the ride and printing out routes & maps for you, your crew, and for new friends that you’ll make on the ride.
-Staking out key intersections and directing people according to the route for 5 – 10 minutes at a time. Having a map helps. SEE ABOVE!
-Booing & shouting down bad biking behavior (eg, running red lights, hitching onto cars, straying from the lane, etc). As a BIRDlet, it’s intimidating to do this alone, but if you’ve got a crew of 2 – 5 bike people who’ve got your back, it’s way more effective.
-Being an awesome example. If you follow the law & ride predictably, your friends are more likely to do the same. If you put lights on your bike your buddies might follow suit on the next ride. If you help out a stranger during the bike party, that stranger is more likely to pass it forward.
All of these little things make the party roll that much more smoothly.
BIRD-types and organizers:
Just and idea, and you all have probably discussed or tried out stuff like this before. I’ve only been to one volunteer meeting and dont’ really know. ANYWAYS:
-Maybe there should be more than one volunteer meeting a month. One for planning & activist sort of stuff, and another as a sort of “New volunteer”/”BIRD workshop”. I know that we do test-rides already and sometimes they serve as the “new volunteer” function, but they aren’t (at least to my knowledge) tied to any particular date/time with reference to the main ride like the regular volunteer meeting is.
-Someone above had commented on maybe “pulling” Bike Party for a month as “punishment”. Suspending the ride entirely seems harsh, and people would go out and ride anyways. Bike Party seems to work best when it offers gentle (or sometimes not-so-gentle) encouragement. The creation of BIRDS last year was awesome. So was the decision to only post the route details 24 hours in advance. Maybe we could go further in restricting how information gets out:
-Giving the route info 24 hours in advance to the first couple of hundred people who register their e-mail at the main site, not unlike the process for the test-rides
-Giving the route info only to people who have given their e-mail addresses during a volunteer meeting
-Posting (or distributing by the the methods above) only the start point and and taking donations for printed route sheets right before the ride.
Creating a guest list and charging a cover are things that bars do to keep the crazies out, and often times they work. I don’t want to create an air of exclusivity, but I also don’t want to see any more drunkards, CATs, or people with concussions.
Britton
July 18, 2010
Oh, yeah, and BIIIIIIIIKE PAAAARTAAAY!
DionRidesBikes.com
July 18, 2010
Great ride and a lot of fun. Just a few suggestions:
1. If people want to pass, please don’t go *through* the crowd, go around. It’s dangerous because it causes crashes.
2. Be nice to others (cars, bikes and peds), not only with your chatter but with your riding.
3. It will be impossible to control the dumbasses from showing up no matter what you do. It will take a complete change of culture of a majority of the riders to shame the bad behavior. Also, somebody made a reference to bars… bars also have security. Shall we have SJBP bouncers?
If somebody is riding like an asshole, it’s everybody’s job to call shame onto them and embarrass them in front of everybody. Maybe come up with a chant to call somebody out? Imagine if 100 hundred people are shaming a rider for acting like an idiot, I’m sure they will stop.
The funueral situation was unfortunate, but to everybody’s defense, very few knew this was going on.
Boom boxes, noise, horns, yelling, etc. You can’t control that. I say let it go.
Jahlaen
July 18, 2010
@#73 Community Activist
I like suggestion #3.
I would like to refine it though.
Let’s just say — preceding the start of every Bike Party — we invite a uniformed police officer to show up and address the assembled mass about appropriate bicycling behavior.
He would emphasize — or serve warning — of consequences for illegal behavior; detailing fines and the potential for being arrested and spending the night in the slammer.
I am convinced a talented communicator from SJPD would give bicyclists a lot to think about during the ride because the information would remain fresh on everybody’s mind.
I don’t like the ride along part because I am a bit apprehensive about tying up law enforcement time on a Friday night. Especially in these tough economic times where downsizing of polce departments seems to be the prevailing order of the day.
I agree with you that we need to try something and all ideas are welcome in order to tame the beast within SJBP that has us all out-of sorts.
-RB
July 18, 2010
If anyone is actually seeing drunk riders, call the police to have them arrested. The dangerous act is a DUI, no different than in a car. Same thing goes for a vehicle on the road that has no brakes. We on bicycles are subject to all vehicle codes when we use the roadways. Think about this, you don’t call the police, the drunk hits a another rider who falls and breaks some bones. You personally allowed it to happen if you knew the danger was there and did nothing.
This ride is no longer a good event when you allow drunks to infiltrate it.
whispersiren
July 18, 2010
On lights: We have food vendors following the ride, seems like there’s got to be an entrepreneur out there who’d want to sell inexpensive lights & glow sticks & batteries and stuff BEFORE the ride and maybe during the stretch breaks… or even during the ride itself. A tap on the shoulder and a “hey you are totally invisible out here. I’ll sell you a glow stick for 50cents” etc. Maybe Birds could even sell some.
Also, maybe an information page specifically about lights could be added to this site. People could contribute reviews of products, links to good online deals, inspirational photos of light rigs and power systems, local shops suggestions etc.
For instance: zbattery.com has Nite Ize spokelites for $5.49 (retail for $7.99)
On past rides I’ve seen some pretty amazing lights! Maybe people just need a little education and inspiration!
JD
July 18, 2010
Look, the laws are not suggestions of things to do.
They are things you MUST do.
If you want to keep this safe, then you need to set up rules and if people decide to violate the rules, then they should be required to leave.
That is one thing a parade permit will get you… the authority to throw people out via police.
No one should be allowed to ride unless that have LIGHTS. Not glow sticks. Not ONLY reflectors, but LIGHTS.
No one should be allowed to ride w/o a helmet.
No one should be doing illegal things (consuming booze, fireworks, etc.) or they should be turned in to police.
You want to keep this thing going, then you MUST take stronger steps to get this crap fixed! One more like July’s and it WILL be the end of SJBP… The community WILL put an end to it.
biketurtle
July 18, 2010
JD, I agree that laws are requirements and not suggestions. However, the police have authority to enforce the law, permit or not. Ordinary citizens are not vigilantes and do not have the authority to enforce the law.
One other minor (no pun intended) correction: helmets are legally required for anyone under 18 (CVC 21212), but not for adults. (I don’t want to open the helmet debate here, but for the record, I always wear one).
Melinda
July 18, 2010
As usual the ride was awesome and fun! It was less harder than the test ride. I just want to react to the Reflections … I believe that though there we only a “few” incidents of running the red lights, my observation was there was hella and they were dangerous incidents. A friend of mine was going to meet my friends and I in Campbell but on his was he was hit by a bottle which hit his neck, which cut his skin that needed a couple of stitches (he remembered hearing “you riders are nuances!” Which brings me to the issue of respect. If we want motorists to respect us and to share the road with us without complaints, then we should respect them too! My friend was just hit on the neck but what about those cyclists in San Francisco who were hit deliberately by a hater? My husband almost fell off his phixie when these young riders on phixies too were just zig-zagging around people, I shouted at them but they just laughed. There were a lot of people not staying on the right but occupying one or two more lanes on the left (and even occupying further more to the left thus going against the traffic. PLEASE, PLEASE FOLLOW THE RULES … PLEASE, PLEASE RESPECT OR WE MIGHT BE REALLY BANNED …
Billy Cool (Bill H)
July 18, 2010
Not much to add excpet that at the beginning i saw a couple of big rigs who were honking cause the were enjoying the show. This may not have been true of all the truckers.
Anyways, here are some pics of the fun ride.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/billhoffman/sets/72157624530963202/
whispersiren
July 18, 2010
@JD: Shucks it really comes down to education. I really don’t think most people know the vehicle codes related to bicycles and/or are either too lazy or don’t care or broke… that’s why i suggested a good page on this site about it and which included both practical and creative solutions… and also the means by which people could get the gear (ie having someone selling lights AT Bike Party rides!)…
I wondered if mentioning glowsticks would get ire (sigh), but I chose to mention it anyways because by selling someone a glowstick you are opening the door to have dialogue about visibility and about the law… particularly to the youth, which seem to be a large part of the problem. Being how dark it can be, and as it was on the last ride, even just something so you can make out that there’s someone there could prevent a potential accident even if only a temporary solution!
Here are light related potions of vehicle code for interested parties:
(d) A bicycle operated during darkness upon a highway, a sidewalk where bicycle operation is not prohibited by the local jurisdiction, or a bikeway, as defined in Section 890.4 of the Streets and Highways Code, shall be equipped with all of the following:
(1) A lamp emitting a white light that, while the bicycle is in motion, illuminates the highway, sidewalk, or bikeway in front of the bicyclist and is visible from a distance of 300 feet in front and from the sides of the bicycle.
(2) A red reflector on the rear that shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet to the rear when directly in front of lawful upper beams of headlamps on a motor vehicle.
(3) A white or yellow reflector on each pedal, shoe, or ankle visible from the front and rear of the bicycle from a distance of 200 feet.
(4) A white or yellow reflector on each side forward of the center of the bicycle, and a white or red reflector on each side to the rear of the center of the bicycle, except that bicycles that are equipped with reflectorized tires on the front and the rear need not be equipped with these side reflectors.
(e) A lamp or lamp combination, emitting a white light, attached to the operator and visible from a distance of 300 feet in front and from the sides of the bicycle, may be used in lieu of the lamp required by paragraph (1) of subdivision (d).
ABoogie
July 18, 2010
probably one of the worst ones yet – people are ruining what used to be a really fun ride. i’m not just talking about the riders themselves, but the community as well. i’m not sure if anyone else ran into that corolla on winchester chucking water balloons at BP participants but they nearly got me and a few others who were just minding their own business and not causing any trouble. of course they sped away after people noticed they were being watched. i also heard of other things (even rocks) being thrown at riders too. if these were the “too cool” kids that thought they were hot shit speeding/weaving like they owned the road, then by all means, chuck away. but the people who are usually the victims are following the rules and just trying to have a good time. this kind of stuff is going to keep happening if these bad apples keep ruining it for everyone else and giving BP a bad name…
Tyler
July 18, 2010
I’m willing to step up more to help out bike party. There will always be rule breakers, but we just have to reduce the number of them. I hate seeing good intentions being screwed up by a couple of idiots, cause this is not how bike party really operates. Bike party is something way better than what outsiders depict due to people who think they are too cool for the rules.
Rapid Robert
July 19, 2010
@JD: Forget about spreading the helmet meme here. Thousands and thousands and thousands of rider miles, with all the problems noted above, with all the ages and distractions of SJBP, and NO HEAD INJURIES anywhere close to serious enough to warrant even a recommendation that anyone wear a helmet on this ride. Still, because of the strong beliefs of many avid cyclists, the strength of the meme and its political correctness, the recommendation for helmets is here. But it’s just a recommendation and not a requirement, for very very good reasons.
I’ve made my point, and EVERYONE knows all there is to know about helmets so let’s just leave it at that. OK?
ryan
July 19, 2010
For a little perspective and history on the matter:
Out of all my time with Bike Party, the only ride besides this most recent one that was plagued with problems was last July’s, 2009 (which was much worse than this one). But with some creative thought and a big volunteer effort, the ride immediately following was quite a huge turn around. It even got a glowing review from CBS: http://cbs5.com/video/?id=54389@kpix.dayport.com
So keep in mind that just because we had a ‘bad’ month, SJBP is an amazing and positive event and those of us who care about it will continue to make it thrive.
Hello Kitty So Pretty Cyclist
July 19, 2010
Let’s please encourage other to do the right things when we ride. During Friday’s ride my husband went into 7-11 and the man at the counter said that a man had just purchased thumb tacks in his frustration with non-compliant Bike Partiers. The man had waited over half an hour and as much as the 7-11 employee didn’t want to sell him the thumb tacks it wasn’t in his power to deny a customer of purchasing a stocked item. I know I personally thank drivers who have their windows down and are stuck in the madness that is Bike Party. Lets all be Birds and put these kiddos who threaten our fun to a stop; the good seeds out number the bad apples so lets speak up on it instead of just rolling your eyes.
Rapid Robert
July 19, 2010
That ride featured the SJPD motorcycles riding the route. THAT’s what keeps the salmon going downstream. It’s the ONLY thing that’ll stop those “look at ME” children.
Red light runners is a totally ‘nother matter. Many do it, including BIRDs. Many justify it, for lots of reasons. And I have to say it’s the fixie riders mostly, just like it’s mostly the bmx kids who kick cars, ride through yards and generally raise hell. Both attitudes come naturally with the choice of equipment. Sorry if stating the truth offends those who don’t follow the generality, but their presence doesn’t negate the facts.
D.Rod
July 19, 2010
I LOVE BIKE PARTY! I would love to be a volunteer but really don’t have the time. I do want to help and I would hate if Bike Party came to an end. So next month I’m going to really try to help out the birds. I will shout down bad behavior! I will yell out stay to the right! And as I usually do…. I will yell out RED LIGHT PARTY and try to make people stop at the red lights! Long live BIIIIKE PARTAAAAY!
ryan
July 19, 2010
RE: red lights and the ride reflections
I’m hoping that my comments in the ride reflection don’t sound like a self-righteous attempt at justifying poor behavior. I personally did not witness a lot of light running (yes, I saw some, mostly on accident, some clearly on purpose). This doesn’t mean that it didn’t occur and I take these observations seriously, as do many of my Bike Party compatriots.
But in light of this, we’ve had nearly three years of amazing riding without too many problems, and we are going to continue to thrive as long as we care about it.
DionRidesBikes.com
July 19, 2010
I’m willing to bet that all the violators are not even reading this stuff.
Perlasum
July 19, 2010
This was my first ride and it was amazing, I totally plan on attending future rides! With that said, I am reading some negative post, and did observe recklessness as well as carelessness but, just a fraction in comparison. It’s my opinion that this is the result of riders who are not taking the time to familiarize themselves with what SJBP is trying to represent. Unfortunately, it is difficult to control such a large crowd and the riders should know better and respect the laws, other people and the rules of conduct. Absolutely more volunteers are really needed and I plan to attend the meetings to see how I can contribute! With as many riders as 3,300 riders, more people should stand up and take the time too! “ own it! we are all enjoying this”
It’s my hope that I can continue to be a part of this spectacular event for many years to come! I think maybe a forum should be created where we can all provide ideas for improvement.
D.Rod
July 19, 2010
Oh and I just bought some lights for my friends who don’t have any for next party. Go http://www.dealsextreme,com you can get a set of red and white blinkies for 5bucks!!!!!! No lie!! There are tons of lights on there too if you want some really bright lights. And. Free shipping!!!!
testrides
July 19, 2010
@D.Rod –
that is the spirit – on the ride, be active and cheer good stuff and boo the bad behavior… we need 100s like you to do it…. and have fun with it.
we should have a contest to come up with the best sayings that are easy to remember, funny hopefully and get the message across to those doing great or awful things. any ideas to get us started? (i’d think shorter the better)
thanks also for posting the links/suggestions of where to get cheap lights. only caveats is lights with the watch batteries can get expensive over time. normally AA batteries last longer and are cheaper.
testrides
July 19, 2010
@Perlasum -
glad you came out…we can use this as the forum!
so everyone, simply state that
“I will help bike party by __________________”
anyone can step up and help own and share a piece of this great bike party movement
testrides
July 19, 2010
From the website:
**BIRD Interest Form**
Alicia
July 19, 2010
Inexpensive lights that run on AA batteries are out there! I don’t know how much these guys charge for shipping, but even if it’s exactly the price of the light set, it’s still only eleven or twelve bucks. Small price to pay for not getting clipped by a car that didn’t see you, or hitting a hard crack in the pavement and meeting the ground unexpectedly.
http://www.atafa.com/sports/products/Bicycle_Headlight_and_Taillight_Set_Bicycle_Accessories-281315.html