Comments on: Reflections on Ride #20, Troll Ride http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/239 Building community through bicycling Fri, 24 May 2013 08:10:42 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: John http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/239/comment-page-2#comment-229 John Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:19:31 +0000 http://www.sjbikeparty.org/?p=239#comment-229 Unfortunately, I think that's the only thing everyone can do: just tolerate the buttheads. But with all due respect, I don't even think wasting the time and effort to talk with people like that is worth it. I really think just totally ignoring them is the least bad option (since there isn't a 'good' one). I mean, just not react to their schtick at all. When they mouth off to you, you just act like they didn't say boo. When they act up towards motorists, you just give it all a lot of space and keep riding. People who cause drama want attention, that's why they do it. That's what children do when they don't get attention for the good they do: they do bad things because some attention is better than no attention. Unfortunately, I think that’s the only thing everyone can do: just tolerate the buttheads. But with all due respect, I don’t even think wasting the time and effort to talk with people like that is worth it.

I really think just totally ignoring them is the least bad option (since there isn’t a ‘good’ one). I mean, just not react to their schtick at all. When they mouth off to you, you just act like they didn’t say boo. When they act up towards motorists, you just give it all a lot of space and keep riding.

People who cause drama want attention, that’s why they do it. That’s what children do when they don’t get attention for the good they do: they do bad things because some attention is better than no attention.

]]> By: DJ 2x Jo http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/239/comment-page-2#comment-228 DJ 2x Jo Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:57:29 +0000 http://www.sjbikeparty.org/?p=239#comment-228 I agree with you. I guess we'll just have to deal with buttheads @ SJBP until they just stop showing up. Talking them down seems to be the most reasonable method of managing their actions. I pray that one day there will be a nice ride without any drama from people like this. See you next ride! For the LOVE (not the mud) of the ride.... dj2xjo I agree with you. I guess we’ll just have to deal with buttheads @ SJBP until they just stop showing up. Talking them down seems to be the most reasonable method of managing their actions. I pray that one day there will be a nice ride without any drama from people like this. See you next ride! For the LOVE (not the mud) of the ride…. dj2xjo

]]> By: John http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/239/comment-page-2#comment-227 John Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:29:25 +0000 http://www.sjbikeparty.org/?p=239#comment-227 If the drunkards/asswipes in SJBP need to be 'aggressively confronted' or a 'secrity force' needed to police them, then you can pretty much bet that SJBP will be finished for good on that ride. No offense, but I doubt there are 10 people in all of SJBP that want to be a part of either of those tasks. Again, I think most riders are like me: I just want to ride and the moment that it because a hassle to ride in SJBP is the moment I say adios. For most of us, life is already too full of having to deal with difficult people and we participate in SJBP solely because it is an outlet from that. It is just simple fun. I love riding in SJBP, I truly enjoy it. But I love and enjoy it because it is four hours a month that I can just ride and have a good time. I really think that I'm like most participants. I don't want to have to deal with drunkards and asswipes, it's just easier to do something else. Besides, you can't 86 people from an open event. And there is no holding anyone accountable in an open event anyway, that's almost by definition. If the drunkards/asswipes in SJBP need to be ‘aggressively confronted’ or a ‘secrity force’ needed to police them, then you can pretty much bet that SJBP will be finished for good on that ride.

No offense, but I doubt there are 10 people in all of SJBP that want to be a part of either of those tasks. Again, I think most riders are like me: I just want to ride and the moment that it because a hassle to ride in SJBP is the moment I say adios.

For most of us, life is already too full of having to deal with difficult people and we participate in SJBP solely because it is an outlet from that. It is just simple fun.

I love riding in SJBP, I truly enjoy it. But I love and enjoy it because it is four hours a month that I can just ride and have a good time. I really think that I’m like most participants. I don’t want to have to deal with drunkards and asswipes, it’s just easier to do something else.

Besides, you can’t 86 people from an open event. And there is no holding anyone accountable in an open event anyway, that’s almost by definition.

]]> By: Dj 2x jo http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/239/comment-page-2#comment-225 Dj 2x jo Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:15:19 +0000 http://www.sjbikeparty.org/?p=239#comment-225 Hey John. I think Youre right. I guess because of my experience working @ a night club, the way we dealt w drunkards and Aholes would be to 86 them out the front door, since SJBP is an open event, aside from being polite and talking down drama of bad behaviour, the last option would be to confront people which nobody wants it to come to. Fully understood. I want SJBP to be peaceful but I also fear for our longevity because of their actions. I like that many people help others but the security factor must be aggressively confronted. I like how some bike clubs hold eachother accountable and mostly promote positivite energy on the ride now how can we channel that into a security force? -For the mud of the ride. Dj2xjo Hey John. I think Youre right. I guess because of my experience working @ a night club, the way we dealt w drunkards and Aholes would be to 86 them out the front door, since SJBP is an open event, aside from being polite and talking down drama of bad behaviour, the last option would be to confront people which nobody wants it to come to. Fully understood. I want SJBP to be peaceful but I also fear for our longevity because of their actions. I like that many people help others but the security factor must be aggressively confronted. I like how some bike clubs hold eachother accountable and mostly promote positivite energy on the ride now how can we channel that into a security force? -For the mud of the ride. Dj2xjo

]]> By: John http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/239/comment-page-1#comment-223 John Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:58:18 +0000 http://www.sjbikeparty.org/?p=239#comment-223 Dj, I heard what you're saying. But I wouldn't ascribe the crappy behavior we've seen on SJBP rides so far to any sort of furthering of any sort of agenda, CP or otherwise. I think it's much more simple than that: you have a few morons who drink too much then decide to show their true colors on the SJBP rides, they act like assholes. I really doubt any of the jerks in SJBP have Critical Mass or any other sort of thought process going on. They are just being themselves: acting like assholes. Dj, I heard what you’re saying. But I wouldn’t ascribe the crappy behavior we’ve seen on SJBP rides so far to any sort of furthering of any sort of agenda, CP or otherwise. I think it’s much more simple than that: you have a few morons who drink too much then decide to show their true colors on the SJBP rides, they act like assholes.

I really doubt any of the jerks in SJBP have Critical Mass or any other sort of thought process going on. They are just being themselves: acting like assholes.

]]> By: Dj 2x jo http://www.sjbikeparty.org/archives/239/comment-page-1#comment-219 Dj 2x jo Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:22:15 +0000 http://www.sjbikeparty.org/?p=239#comment-219 I think SJBP and other events have become platforms for critical mass minded people that use it to push their agendas of harassing drivers police and mayhem in the public. As Ive posted before I support free speech but not at the cost of SJBP. Even if I saw a hated enemy @ my friends house, out of respect for the house I wouldnt fight them in the house! For the love of the ride please increase the peace and have fun! I think SJBP and other events have become platforms for critical mass minded people that use it to push their agendas of harassing drivers police and mayhem in the public. As Ive posted before I support free speech but not at the cost of SJBP. Even if I saw a hated enemy @ my friends house, out of respect for the house I wouldnt fight them in the house! For the love of the ride please increase the peace and have fun!

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